BEEF: Inf only, or vehicles?

Post by **HereComesPete** » July 12th, 2007, 22:02

Hmm, after a totally un-fun start it did get better/more balanced as peeps got used to actually staying on a point, and using anti-vehicle stuff again. However, it still wasn't as much fun as some of the games we had with no vehicles, also however

at the chicken rage.

Post by **ProfHawking** » July 12th, 2007, 22:29

Where is the "CSS only"?

Post by **deject** » July 12th, 2007, 22:45

Everyone who complains about being helpless against tanks needs to go here:

http://www.secretsofbattlefield.com/hitpoints.php

Yeah you'll still die a lot, but you'll kill a lot more tanks. Taking down a tank on your own with 2 rockets is very satisfying.

Post by **FatherJack** » July 12th, 2007, 23:26

My main problem is that unless the tank driver is rubbish, you rarely get the opportunity.

Granted, I haven't spent much time as AT, and I can never work out what those ground-mounted things are supposed to be for, but do grenades or gunfire have any effect on a tank?

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » July 12th, 2007, 23:33

FatherJack wrote:My main problem is that unless the tank driver is rubbish, you rarely get the opportunity.

You just have to be fast and get cover soon after firing, They'll rarely see you for the first shot. for the second you need to rely on their stupidity more than anything.

FatherJack wrote:Granted, I haven't spent much time as AT, and I can never work out what those ground-mounted things are supposed to be for, but do grenades or gunfire have any effect on a tank?

The TOWs and such are pretty much double-damage AT guns. they're kinda lousy as most decent drivers know where they are (and as such half ignore them). *BUT* if you get a shot off, you'll likely get a kill.

Nades and bullets do nothing to armour.

Post by **deject** » July 13th, 2007, 1:06

Well, frags aren't completely useless, but it would take around 40-50 to take out a tank.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » July 13th, 2007, 1:10

deject wrote:Well, frags aren't completely useless, but it would take around 40-50 to take out a tank.

But for the sake of normal gameplay, they're useless.

Post by **deject** » July 13th, 2007, 1:34

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:
But for the sake of normal gameplay, they're useless.

yes

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » July 13th, 2007, 7:39

I think that if we stick with vehicles, we need more of the vehicle-based maps such as Jalalabad, Wake, Daqing Oilfields, Oman, Kubra Dam, Fushe She Pass and Dragon Valley, since on Karkand and Oman the vehicles generally dominate but there aren't enough for everyone who wants one. Also, most of them have an uncap base for each team, which always helps. Just my opinion, but I say if we stick with vehicles, we should mix up the map rotation a bit.

Post by **fabyak** » July 13th, 2007, 7:56

Roman Totale wrote:

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Is there a cringing smiley?

Post by **FatherJack** » July 13th, 2007, 9:32

Wasn't it possible to set certain maps as infy-only, so we can have a bit of both.

Karkand and Mashtuur might be best without vehicles, Sharqi and Jalalabad work better with them. Wake and Fu-She suck pretty much regardless - without vehicles it's a long, boring walk - with them it's jet/heli rapage.

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » July 13th, 2007, 10:02

Well if I'm around vehicles will be blowing up all over the place due to my AT whoring.

If Dog Pants were around it would be double.

buzzmong · Post by **buzzmong** » July 13th, 2007, 11:29

FatherJack wrote:Wasn't it possible to set certain maps as infy-only, so we can have a bit of both.

Karkand and Mashtuur might be best without vehicles, Sharqi and Jalalabad work better with them. Wake and Fu-She suck pretty much regardless - without vehicles it's a long, boring walk - with them it's jet/heli rapage.

That.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » July 13th, 2007, 16:30

FatherJack wrote:Wasn't it possible to set certain maps as infy-only, so we can have a bit of both.

Isn't possible.