Help, Im crap at techy stuff.

the-ox · Post by **the-ox** » June 24th, 2007, 17:20

Hi. Just wondering if I can get some help or recommendations. Got a AMD something or other processor 2.4ghz. Got a nvidia 6100 256mb graphics card. Got 1gb memory. My mate has a lower spec PC and games run nice and smooth on his. Im stuggling to run CZ Source. Motion is jerky, laggy. Help. What do I need to replace, and what with?

Suggestion appreciated.

Ox

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » June 24th, 2007, 17:23

The graphics card, with something a little nicer.

what to replace it with depends on your budget and whether your motherboard supports AGP or PCI-express.

Post by **fabyak** » June 25th, 2007, 10:03

It's an unusual intro. I'll give you that

Welcomes!

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » June 25th, 2007, 10:09

His initial introduction post was in Feb 06!

Hiya again

Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » June 25th, 2007, 12:40

Post by **HereComesPete** » June 25th, 2007, 16:10

loes

as for better stuff, what berk said, cpu's can be forgiven for slowness now, but cards show their age horribly, get a better card!

the-ox · Post by **the-ox** » June 25th, 2007, 17:14

Been looking at ATI X1650 (or higher) 512mb card, another 1gb memory. Im guessing that should do the trick? And my PC accepts PCI cards.....whatever that means! Will let you all know. Cheers for the advice!

eion · Post by **eion** » June 25th, 2007, 17:19

the-ox wrote:Been looking at ATI X1650 (or higher) 512mb card, another 1gb memory. Im guessing that should do the trick? And my PC accepts PCI cards.....whatever that means! Will let you all know. Cheers for the advice!

Do you mean PCI Express? Despite the similar name, it's a very big difference. A modern PC will typically have one or two PCI Express slots (for graphics cards) and up to three PCI slots (for network cards, sound cards, et cetera).
PCI graphics cards are still available (for very old machines), and you most assuredly do not want one.

Post by **Dog Pants** » June 25th, 2007, 17:58

Also, if you've got an Nvidia card your motherboard might not like ATI (although I might be thinking of dual GPU boards). Is the 6100 onboard? I got the impression it was from the Nvidia website.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » June 25th, 2007, 18:52

This is the point where I suggest you find a mate who knows stuff to have a look at it. (as they'd be able to tell in about 5 seconds)

Failing that, photo of the inside of your case might work.

If your machine only accepts PCI cards, you're fucked (It's really not worth bothering, new computer time)
If it accepts AGP cards, you're in moderate luck.
It is accepts PCI-Express cards, you're sorted.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » June 25th, 2007, 18:55

Dog Pants wrote:Also, if you've got an Nvidia card your motherboard might not like ATI (although I might be thinking of dual GPU boards). Is the 6100 onboard? I got the impression it was from the Nvidia website.

I think the 6100 is onboard, yeah.

Basically everything is happy and works well together.

Only things that don't work is Crossfire in SLI mobos. and SLI in crossfire mobos.

Post by **deject** » June 25th, 2007, 19:07

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:Only things that don't work is Crossfire in SLI mobos. and SLI in anything else.

fix'd

Post by **FatherJack** » June 25th, 2007, 21:00

Welcome back!

If you download CPU-Z, unzip and run it, on the Mainboard tab, under Graphic Interface it should tell you what type of socket you have.

Post by **FatherJack** » June 26th, 2007, 1:11

Also, see this: http://www.5punk.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=8647 so we know a bit more about your system.

Woo Elephant Yeah · Post by **Woo Elephant Yeah** » June 26th, 2007, 12:12

Hello dude, welcome back to the sticky stuff.
This is a mate of mine/Stroudy's and unfortunately (for him) he lives in Wales, so no chance of me going round to have a look.
Then again that might be fortunate with my recent troubled PC upgrades

the-ox · Post by **the-ox** » June 27th, 2007, 16:41

Hola Baker dude. Long time, no see. In Bristol for Stroudys birthday on Sat. Got me a hotel and all. Will see you then if your going mate!

the-ox · Post by **the-ox** » June 27th, 2007, 16:49

Heres the read-out from that cpu-z thingy. Anyone actually make sense of this? Doesnt seem to tell me what my graphic interface is. Hmm....

CPU-Z 1.40 report file

Processor(s)

Number of processors 1
Number of cores 1 per processor
Number of threads 1 (max 1) per processor
Name AMD Athlon 64 3800+
Code Name Orleans
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
Package Socket AM2 (940)
Family/Model/Stepping F.F.2
Extended Family/Model F.5F
Brand ID 4
Core Stepping DH-F2
Technology 90 nm
Core Speed 2409.4 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 12.0 x 200.8 MHz
HT Link speed 1003.9 MHz
Stock frequency 2400 MHz
Instruction sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, x86-64
L1 Data cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size

Chipset & Memory

Northbridge NVIDIA MCP61 rev. A1
Southbridge NVIDIA MCP61 rev. A2
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 1024 MBytes
Memory Frequency 301.2 MHz (CPU/8)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 5.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRDC) 5 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 5 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 15 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 21 clocks
Command Rate 1T

System

System Manufacturer Packard Bell BV
System Name ISTART 2380
System S/N 124959120319
Mainboard Vendor Packard Bell BV
Mainboard Model M2NS-NVM
BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS Version M2NS-NVM 0204
BIOS Date 11/13/2006

Memory SPD

Module 1 DDR2, PC2-5300 (333 MHz), 512 MBytes, Nanya Technology
Module 2 DDR2, PC2-5300 (333 MHz), 512 MBytes, Nanya Technology

Software

Windows Version Microsoft Windows Fista (6.0) Home Premium Edition (Build 6000)
DirectX Version 10.0

the-ox · Post by **the-ox** » June 27th, 2007, 16:51

Right, now thats done, any suggestions on what I should change/replace/feed to dog?

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » June 27th, 2007, 17:05

Okay, (despite it not saying in the list)

You need a PCI-Express (PCI-E) Graphics card*.

What you want very much depends on budget, but I'd go for something like This (£100)

However, your machine only has a 250W psu, which might not be up to the job (then again, it might be. that depends on quality)
For a PSU upgrade I'd suggest something like This (£50)

Oh, and feed Fista to the dog

*As far as I can tell from some googlewhoring anyway

the-ox · Post by **the-ox** » June 29th, 2007, 9:17

Wouldnt a 512 card be better then a 256? Been shopping around, and Asus or Saphhire (ATI?) cards seem to be money for value, but what the hell do I know?