Atorian: Vaxeta Senate Disbands, lol internet fights!

MORDETH LESTOK · Post by **MORDETH LESTOK** » March 26th, 2007, 21:16

573 Frizzy Vaxeta 0 0
574 frampton Traxian 0 0
575 bhgjfj Zaulu 0 0
576 dfg Zaulu 0 0
577 p4rer4nge56 Traxian 0 0
578 Bubbleman Traxian 0 0
579 jackemsss Traxian 0 0
580 hgfghdrth Zaulu 0 0
581 equinox Zaulu 0 0
582 gfd Zaulu 0 0
583 MORDS Zaulu 0 0

I see you, Frizzy!

Infiltrated!

Intelligence Department
Report on the Frizzy Empire
Economy Income
Credit ???
C-Fusion 10695 per hour
Metals ???
Ziton 50 per hour
Economy Resources
Credit ???
C-Fusion 731632
Metals ???
Ziton 201016

guess you're not playing much...and yet you're ranked higher than me

MORD's Empire Income
Credits 122492 per hour
Metals 38085 per hour
Cold Fusion 49157 per hour
Ziton 19955 per hour

Credits: 1892545
Metals: 3416286
Cold Fusion: 2118147
Ziton: 3201919

Going for Tech Population Stage 4 in a few hours which cost 2mil Credits...so in the morning....time to make the fleet

Post by **Roman Totale** » March 26th, 2007, 21:30

Hmm, I'm alright for credit making, just need to boost my CF and Ziton output

ROBO Empire

Credits 150100 per hour
Metals 24000 per hour
Cold Fusion 12950 per hour
Ziton 6500 per hour

MORDETH LESTOK · Post by **MORDETH LESTOK** » March 26th, 2007, 22:11

couldnt wait till mornin...I sent the 10each of start up ships to see how battle works:

Report
The punchline Empire Wins!

The punchline empire has gained 89 Experience Points!

The MORDSs fleet has arrived in punchlines space and are orbiting one of the punchline Empires planets, long and medium range weapons are useless.

10 of The punchline Empires Sub-Space Fighters(Fig) attacks 10 F7-Fighters(Fig) and destroys 7 ships.
The punchline Empire gains 29 damage points.

10 of The MORDS Empires Sub-Space Fighters(Fig) attacks 10 Sub-Space Fighters(Fig) and destroys 4 ships.
The MORDS Empire gains 12 damage points.

10 of The punchline Empires F7-Fighters(Fig) attacks 10 Sub-Space Fighters(Fig) and destroys 10 ships.
The punchline Empire gains 29 damage points.

10 of The punchline Empires F7-Fighters(Fig) attacks 10 Tanker-XVs(Fig) and destroys 6 ships.
The punchline Empire gains 27 damage points.

3 of The MORDS Empires F7-Fighters(Fig) attacks 10 Tanker-XVs(Fig) and destroys 3 ships.
The MORDS Empire gains 13 damage points.

4 of The MORDS Empires Tanker-XVs(Fig) attacks 10 F7-Fighters(Fig) and destroys 3 ships.
The MORDS Empire gains 12 damage points.

7 of The punchline Empires Tanker-XVs(Fig) attacks 4 Tanker-XVs(Fig) and destroys 1 ships.
The punchline Empire gains 4 damage points.

The MORDS Empire has a Military Rating of 0
The punchline Empire has a Military Rating of 0

The MORDS Empire has scored 37 damage points.
The punchline Empire has scored 89 damage points.

The MORDS Empire of the Zaulu race gained 0 points because they lost the battle.
The punchline Empire of the Traxian race gained a total of 89 points.

The punchline Empire has more damage points then the MORDS Empire, therefore The punchline Empire wins the battle.

The defending empire collected the following resources from battle debris:
Cold-Fusion: 0
Metals: 339
Ziton: 0

Couldn't go out with a loss....so I built 250 fighters and by the time i found who i could attack...i was attacked by 3 empires and now i'm in protection mode lol...kinda liked the old version where you had to send fleets off to attack...this instant battles dont give u a chance cuz I'm sure peeps are just looking to find the new guy in "unprotected" mode.

22:43 26/03/2007 - Military - Your fleet defended an attack from the Liani Empire and lost. [Report]
22:41 26/03/2007 - Military - Your fleet defended an attack from the R4G3 Empire and won. You gained 4 experience points! [Report]
22:36 26/03/2007 - Military - Your fleet defended an attack from the sek0002 Empire and won. You gained 925 experience points! [Report]
22:22 26/03/2007 - Military - You attacked the punchline Empires fleet and lost. [Report]

notice the times....14mins after my first attack, which was the time i prolly took to make the new fighter design, I got attacked, then 5mins later another attack...then finally 2mins later one more attack that put me into protected mode. I never got a chance to send my fleet to attack anyone!

Report
The MORDS Empire Wins!

The MORDS empire has gained 925 Experience Points!

The sek0002s fleet has arrived in MORDSs space. Ships are too close to each other to use long range weapons and too far away to use short range weapons.

10 of The sek0002 Empires HAPPYs(Sci) attacks 250 F1s(Fig) and destroys 23 ships.
The sek0002 Empire gains 292 damage points.

The sek0002 Empires SAD ships could not find any targets to attack.

227 of The MORDS Empires F1s(Fig) attacks 14 SADs(Sci) and destroys 0 ships.
The MORDS Empire gains 0 damage point.

The MORDS Empires F7-Fighter ships could not find any targets to attack.

The MORDS Empires Tanker-XV ships could not find any targets to attack.

The battle has entered close combat, all ships are now orbiting one of the MORDS Empires planets, long and medium range weapons are useless.

10 of The sek0002 Empires HAPPYs(Sci) attacks 227 F1s(Fig) and destroys 22 ships.
The sek0002 Empire gains 279 damage points.

The sek0002 Empires SAD ships could not find any targets to attack.

205 of The MORDS Empires F1s(Fig) attacks 14 SADs(Sci) and destroys 14 ships.
The MORDS Empire gains 728 damage points.

205 of The MORDS Empires F1s(Fig) attacks 10 HAPPYs(Sci) and destroys 4 ships.
The MORDS Empire gains 197 damage points.

The MORDS Empires F7-Fighter ships could not find any targets to attack.

The MORDS Empires Tanker-XV ships could not find any targets to attack.

The sek0002 Empire has a Military Rating of 6099
The MORDS Empire has a Military Rating of 15999

The sek0002 Empire has scored 571 damage points.
The MORDS Empire has scored 925 damage points.

The sek0002 Empire of the Vaxeta race gained 0 points because they lost the battle.
The MORDS Empire of the Zaulu race gained a total of 925 points.

The MORDS Empire has more damage points then the sek0002 Empire, therefore The MORDS Empire wins the battle.

The defending empire collected the following resources from battle debris:
Cold-Fusion: 10
Metals: 12836
Ziton: 4

so the first guy I had to defend has Medium Range Weapons...which...I will be getting in 85hours...

You can only attack someone within 60% of your MILITARY rating (is what they told me as I was getting attacked)

Empire Name: Race: Score: Military Rating:
149 MORDS Zaulu 929 3875 Protected

I'm ranked 35 in Military Rankings.

Not sure what this all means lol

MORDETH LESTOK · Post by **MORDETH LESTOK** » March 27th, 2007, 13:41

ah...nice to wake up and see me attacked 3x...atleast I won the first 2...and the first guy had scions

although the 3rd guy WTFPWND! me

with 10 Destroyers vs 55 Fighters in one shot...long range too....so he would have had medium range to get another free attack on me if I had any ships left.

The Growths fleet has arrived on the outskirts of MORDSs space. Only long range weapons are effective from this distance.

10 of The Growth Empires 1s(Des) attacks 55 F1s(Fig) and destroys 55 ships.
The Growth Empire gains 698 damage points.

Military Rating = qty/strenth of your fleet
no ships left = 0 Rating

MORDETH LESTOK · Post by **MORDETH LESTOK** » March 27th, 2007, 14:08

ah cool...you can still attack while in protected mode...but the key thing is...find a target close to your military ranking...if its less than 60% then u cant attack...but, if the target is higher...build more ships to be above his rating but within the 60% and PWN dem.

with about 100 fighters...I'm #20 in the military ratings. #1-19 would pwn me seriously if i was in range. They all have huge scores from attacks won and prolly are quite farther down the Tech Line.

so i think i'll be staying at #20 or lower for awhile heh

MORDETH LESTOK · Post by **MORDETH LESTOK** » March 27th, 2007, 17:11

bah...screw the fighters...seems like most peeps have the bigger ships!

got a 2nd planet...going to get all my planets first while upgrading techs for ships and weapons by getting them to 50% with population(CF required) only...then increase the shit out of the rest

i posted about the Resource Upgrade Techs and still dont have an answer why the upgrades are at a negative effect.

thanks for playing....

MORDETH LESTOK · Post by **MORDETH LESTOK** » March 27th, 2007, 19:03

I made a 2nd Empire in the Traxian space. Steal their info!

Freedom
Date: 27/03/2007 at 09:17:27
just build up on credit income on all planets bar 30% of last planet, then you can build the other resources what you feel like but id advise leaving at least 10% for later on as your always going to have to adjust your income to suit your style of play. with the additional two planets do exactely the same really. credit income take up the most land and is pretty much the most essential thing you need to build everything including tech, more buildings and ships

Zmaster9877 · Post by **Zmaster9877** » March 28th, 2007, 11:26

Hello All,

Its been a while since i came here, actually i lost the website when my hard drive crashed and i couldn't find it doing a google search. Turns out looking for spank wasn't going to help me, today it finally clicked that it was spunk.

lol

hehe its always good to read this forum. btw military ranking just shows your military strength vs someone else. The rankings page is the what matters. but the Military Rankings page is a great place to find targets

- Pestilence, Atorian Developer

MORDETH LESTOK · Post by **MORDETH LESTOK** » March 28th, 2007, 13:11

Heyas Pestilence!

Gratz on the new episode!

Now the questions!

1)The Hub is giving +50 CF per building?
Intensification Hub +200 CF Energy per tick Credits: 20000 Land: 50
Buildings: 10 = Energy Output: 2500 CF (Cold Fusion)

2)How come the upgraded techs seem to be at a negative result? The Ziton Stage 2+3 is the worse and Metals Stage 4.
(I posted this Ziton Example in the Zaulu forums cuz i couldn't figure how to post on the community forum(till now), but no real help there.)

MORDS
Date: 27/03/2007 at 18:55:36
I thought its best to use as little land as possible to maximize the planet efficiency and to use the minimum CF required. If this is true, then I should only be building Venting Cylinders as there are no cost cuts or better ratios than this Stage 2 Tech??

Ziton hoarder +10 Ziton per tick
-2 CF Energy per tick Credits: 300 Land: 1
Venting Cylinder +25 Ziton per tick
-1 CF Energy per tick Credits: 600 Land: 2
Venting Station +100 Ziton per tick
-10 CF Energy per tick Credits: 2400 Land: 25
Drone Venting Station +300 Ziton per tick
-50 CF Energy per tick Credits: 7200 Land: 250

MORDS
Date: 27/03/2007 at 16:21:07
There still should be a positive purpose of upgrading your resource techs...which there doesnt seem to be with Ziton especially.

12x Venting Cylinder(T2) = 1x Drone Venting(T4)

12x Venting = +300ziton -12cf 7200credits 24Land
1x Drone = +300ziton -50cf 7200credits 250Land

So...for the same amout of ziton...i'm losing -38cf/tick and -206Land per building at the same cost.
So, I lost time researching Ziton Tech 2+3 for no purpose instead of using that time to research other Techs that actually "upgrade".

Since I can only have 5 Planets...I want to use the least amount per building to get the most value out of it.

Too early for anything else atm lol

friznit · Post by **friznit** » March 28th, 2007, 14:08

Thank heavens Mord is better at this game than me. You can tell me wtf I need to do next! I've just got to the stage where I'm pulling in around 10k of everything per tick and am spamming the pop research and building housing for my minions like crazy (seems to me that credits is the one thing always running out). Havn't built a single ship beyond the 30 I started with

You should come join our pathetic race M, the Vaxeta senate seems to be pretty useless - you could join me and rule the galaxy as father and son

MORDETH LESTOK · Post by **MORDETH LESTOK** » March 28th, 2007, 15:00

Luke....I am your father!

from what i gathered a bit too lately...

Techs:
All Population/CF Techs are good...you get credit discounts for each upgrade.
Metal Tech...you get credit discounts for each upgrade but the CF requirements are increased a bit. So, depending if you need credits or CF at the time of buying you have a choice.
Ziton Tech...no point going past Stage 1 as there are no credit discounts, they use more land and CF.

But basically, If i'd start over...I'd just do:
Pop(all) edit:prolly 3 good enuff so as to use more tech time for ships/ammo
CF(all) edit: ^^
Metal(3)
Ziton(1)
Ships+Ammo(all)

Keep the techs going....1 tech for resources(switch between Pop/CF) and 1 tech for Ships/Ammo...skip metal and ziton for now.
(Although, to keep the techs going...make sure you have enuff resources to research them when they can start.)

Use all your credits to buy POPULATION and only the required CF to do that. Get your planet up to 50% explored...get another planet...do this till you get all your 5 planets. When you get your 4th planet...get Ziton 1 and upgrade to Metal 3.

After you get your 5th planet...just leave it for now. Go back to your first planet and start using all your credits for CF/Metals/Ziton buildings so you can start designing and building ships.

Depending on where you are on Ship/Ammo techs, don't build ships until you have a plan of attack and designs made. As soon as you make them...you will get attacked. I'd suggest making multiple designs as each will get their own attack. Build them evenly like 20each at a time. Look at your Combat Ranking...it will have jump up quite a bit with 20each.

Dont attack empire with high scores...it means they won alot of battles and probably have scions and destroyers...u know the big ships and better ranges to

u.

uggh...need food

Post by **FatherJack** » March 29th, 2007, 20:08

started up 5pank as a Zaulu

MORDETH LESTOK · Post by **MORDETH LESTOK** » March 29th, 2007, 21:36

well..i got my 4 of my planets maxed to 100%
1st planet = approx 90% pop
planets 2-4 = 100% pop
the 5th will be 50% Population and rest in resources

the remaining 50% will take a godlike amount of metal/ziton/cf buildings so you're free to build what you need with about 1.5mil/tick in credits.

MORD's Empire Income
Credits 1388466 per hour
Metals 374090 per hour (10mil in Reserves)
Cold Fusion 50174 per hour (5mil)
Ziton 317030 per hour (8mil)

Going to raise Metals and Ziton Income to 1mil/tick each as i know ships need metal to build and ziton for the shields (another tech I dont have)...dont know if ships require much CF so only buying enuff to make the metal/ziton buildings.

Just waiting on ship/ammo techs now..so i can build something other than a fighter as it seems everyone that attacked me had scions/strikers/destroyers with atleast short and medium range against my 200 short range fighters

I see that as a problem with this game...someone with all the techs and a billion resources can beat on noob coming out of protection as soon as they make 1ship. Thats if the UBER one got his fleet destroyed(or even deleted his ships) and moved down in the Military rankings to 0 then builts a few UBER ships to keep his rating around the noob range. Which would be one way to win all the time and score points = Atorian Win.

I think the last one I played was base on Empire Ranking...therefore...you were at the same tech level if i recall correctly ?

I dunno...just waiting on the ships/ammo so i can spend all my money/resources!!!

Zmaster9877 · Post by **Zmaster9877** » March 30th, 2007, 3:31

MORDETH LESTOK wrote:Heyas Pestilence!

Gratz on the new episode!

Now the questions!

1)The Hub is giving +50 CF per building?
Intensification Hub +200 CF Energy per tick Credits: 20000 Land: 50
Buildings: 10 = Energy Output: 2500 CF (Cold Fusion)

2)How come the upgraded techs seem to be at a negative result? The Ziton Stage 2+3 is the worse and Metals Stage 4.
(I posted this Ziton Example in the Zaulu forums cuz i couldn't figure how to post on the community forum(till now), but no real help there.)

Good question :-) No one pointed out that problem during beta testing that i was aware of so it probably never got picked up. I will add it to the list of things to do :-)

Yeah there is a bit of a problem with new players joining that when they do their tech is sucky compared to others and you need to spend the first few weeks building your economy - which works well cuz you can spend time researchin the early stuff. In previous episodes we had that techs would add to your score, but problems arose when a player lost all their planets and had full tech because they had no income and couldn't beat the players near their score because they couldn't afford to build a big enough fleet. What probably should happen is techs are added to your Military Rating. This would allow someone to gauge battles a lot better and release the problem that n00bs get crushed by advanced players. Probably worth doing to make the game more n00b friendly :-)

Btw yes we are aware that the game is more fun with tick based attacks and we have been considering an alternative idea to what we used previously.

MORDETH LESTOK · Post by **MORDETH LESTOK** » March 30th, 2007, 17:56

Zmaster9877 wrote:What probably should happen is techs are added to your Military Rating.

sounds good...that way you'd have a minimum Combat Rating at the your current Tech Level even with no ships...which would make the fights a quite bit more competitive and the little guys couldnt be picked on...

glad to hear your addressing the missed tick based attacks.

btw...how much time left in is this episode?

MORDETH LESTOK · Post by **MORDETH LESTOK** » April 1st, 2007, 1:42

The MORDS Empire Wins!

The MORDS empire has gained 334 Experience Points!

The MORDSs fleet has arrived in hentsris space and are orbiting one of the hentsri Empires planets, long and medium range weapons are useless.

20 of The hentsri Empires Sub-Space Fighters(Fig) attacks 20 F2s(Fig) and destroys 2 ships.
The hentsri Empire gains 26 damage points.

84 of The hentsri Empires Pengiis(Fig) attacks 20 F3s(Fig) and destroys 10 ships.
The hentsri Empire gains 129 damage points.

11 of The MORDS Empires F1s(Fig) attacks 84 Pengiis(Fig) and destroys 7 ships.
The MORDS Empire gains 63 damage points.

20 of The MORDS Empires F6s(Fig) attacks 77 Pengiis(Fig) and destroys 12 ships.
The MORDS Empire gains 108 damage points.

10 of The MORDS Empires F3s(Fig) attacks 65 Pengiis(Fig) and destroys 6 ships.
The MORDS Empire gains 54 damage points.

18 of The MORDS Empires F2s(Fig) attacks 59 Pengiis(Fig) and destroys 11 ships.
The MORDS Empire gains 99 damage points.

20 of The MORDS Empires F5s(Fig) attacks 48 Pengiis(Fig) and destroys 12 ships.
The MORDS Empire gains 108 damage points.

20 of The MORDS Empires F4s(Fig) attacks 36 Pengiis(Fig) and destroys 12 ships.
The MORDS Empire gains 108 damage points.

9 of The hentsri Empires F7-Fighters(Fig) attacks 20 F4s(Fig) and destroys 7 ships.
The hentsri Empire gains 90 damage points.

10 of The hentsri Empires Tanker-XVs(Fig) attacks 20 F5s(Fig) and destroys 1 ships.
The hentsri Empire gains 13 damage points.

The MORDS Empire has a Military Rating of 7171
The hentsri Empire has a Military Rating of 4477

The MORDS Empire has scored 540 damage points.
The hentsri Empire has scored 258 damage points.

Score Modifer = 62%

The MORDS Empire of the Zaulu race gained a total of 334 points.
The hentsri Empire of the Traxian race gained 0 points because they lost the battle.

The MORDS Empire has more damage points then the hentsri Empire, therefore The MORDS Empire wins the battle.

The defending empire collected the following resources from battle debris:
Cold-Fusion: 1
Metals: 900
Ziton: 0

The MORDS Empire successfully completed mission #292 and gained 10000 Credits, 5000Metals, 1000 Cold Fusion and 1000 Ziton.

hmm...same thing like before...have max designs(10) to get 10 attacks...all i had were 6 designs...of the same exact ship...bought 5 of each...attack whoever in range...won....no one in range...bought 5 more of each...attack whoever in range...won....no one in range...bought 5 more of each...attack whoever in range...won

beat up alot of Strikers with my measley fighters

although...everyone else "protected" unless i want to fight peeps in the Top 20...so, nothing to do unless i wanna sucide bomb them...

MORDETH LESTOK · Post by **MORDETH LESTOK** » April 1st, 2007, 1:49

hmm...got attacked by Hellsing(Vaxeta) while typing above post...
he was this:
The HellSing Empire has a Military Rating of 6905
The MORDS Empire has a Military Rating of 5879

now:
Empire Name: Race: Score: Military Rating:
1 HellSing Vaxeta 6234823 282368 Protected

exactly what I was pointing out about the UBER guys taking out the little guys...

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » April 1st, 2007, 8:01

That's our supreme senator too

MORDETH LESTOK · Post by **MORDETH LESTOK** » April 1st, 2007, 17:17

bah...finally get Strikers and the only one NOT protected had only Destroyers which Strikers can't target!!!!!

So, i make new Fighters to target the Destroyers...and I get a message saying he's protected for 4hours...yet it doesnt say on the rankings!!!!!

Empire Name: Race: Score: Military Rating:
1 Freedom Traxian 20631430 1307657 Protected
2 DRAKENGARD Traxian 2925 501363 Protected
3 furon Zaulu 1548170 492760 Protected
4 CT3n Traxian 7841110 444947 Protected
5 SnakeBites Zaulu 2883246 127848 Protected
6 Sith Traxian 102126 105459 Protected
7 Revenge Zaulu 92134 103110 Protected
8 Luke Zaulu 3600332 99246 Protected
9 MORDS Zaulu 3379 96900 Protected
10 Heroine Traxian 2474376 89165 Protected
11 Katarr Vaxeta 1409804 86848 Protected
12 rawkfist Traxian 225744 85100 Protected
13 Skunk Traxian 321820 72139

Uggh...after all the resource buildup...I can't fight!!!!

so...once i'm out of protection...i'm sure i'll see a stack of "Defended against" reports in the summary!!!!!

Post by **Roman Totale** » April 1st, 2007, 18:26

I've deliberately not built any ships so my military ranking can stay at zero. Once I've got the tech to build Destroyers etc it will be super fleet go time.

What sort of targets should I be setting my ships to attack?