shit, i think i might have killed my ipod

Post by **Dog Pants** » February 11th, 2008, 15:46

I don't defrag. Yeah, you heard. I'm dirty.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » February 11th, 2008, 15:47

Dog Pants wrote:I don't defrag. Yeah, you heard. I'm dirty.

nor do I, don't see the need for it.

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » February 11th, 2008, 15:53

I was just gonna say that we hadn't had the 'Defrag is pointless' side of things yet.

I think the argument goes that the access time gained is extremely limited but the thrashing of the drive during defrag leads to a shorter life.

Post by **HereComesPete** » February 11th, 2008, 15:55

I run diskeeper very occasionally. It does it all itself if you put it in auto mode, but I haven't paid for it so I can't.

An argument I saw in favour of defrag is this - the disk doesn't work as hard to find stuff = it's cooler as a result = it lasts longer.

It might be bull, but better safe than sorry.

The Incredible... · Post by **The Incredible...** » February 11th, 2008, 16:19

i've tried a chkdisk, it gets about 99% of the way through and then won't go any further. they've arranged for a replacement now anyway so should be sorted.

doubt i'll get an upgrade as it's an 80gb classic which is the newest one, except for the touch, but i don't want a touch yet as it doesnt have enough storage on it

Post by **HereComesPete** » February 11th, 2008, 16:23

Woo for new stuff!

buzzmong · Post by **buzzmong** » February 11th, 2008, 16:25

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:
Sorry, but that's just fucking stupid.

Get a proper defraggler and run a boot defrag say, once a month.

Defragging isn't a massive thing, don't do it while you're gaming or doing anything system intensive and you'll be fine. (doing it while gaming, ripping dvds, watching HD stuff, well, that's almost as stupid as moving a drive to another machine to defrag it)

Fairy muff, I did not know about boot defragglisationing nor own a product that does it.

And it's not incredibly stupid, just lots of extra non needed effort, it will mean nothing is running on the drive period though (although like mentioned, a boot one will do that as well).

Post by **deject** » February 11th, 2008, 16:30

I defrag somewhat regularly, mostly out of habit. I like seeing 0% fragmentation.

Post by **Dog Pants** » February 11th, 2008, 16:44

Code: Select all

Volume fragmentation
    Total fragmentation                        = 27 %
    File fragmentation                         = 55 %
    Free space fragmentation                   = 0 %

Lovely, lovely fragmentation.

Post by **deject** » February 11th, 2008, 17:50

Dog pants, I want to see if defragging actually has any impact on disk performance. Would it be possible to time some file copying and such?

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » February 11th, 2008, 17:58

I expect fragmentation would show some effect in DP's case, Assuming he's on a single windows drive.

Numbers would be interesting though.

Post by **HereComesPete** » February 11th, 2008, 18:08

But every variable, of which there's lots, will affect outcome. I'd like to see the before and after defrag speeds on the copying of a single large file and a few disparate small files on DP's system, but I doubt he cba.

Post by **Dog Pants** » February 11th, 2008, 19:00

That's my gaming/apps drive. Windows is on a seperate one of its own. I'll try a file copy from one to the other if you like, but I'm fucked if I'm defragging it to show you the after - it'd take ages!

Post by **deject** » February 11th, 2008, 19:02

I'm sure the fucking can be arranged.

Post by **Dog Pants** » February 11th, 2008, 19:32

Hang on while I get the USB controller for my buttplug then...