So what's next?

friznit · Post by **friznit** » March 28th, 2007, 10:19

Any ideas for what we should do next as a corp? Languishing in empire is all well and good but ultimately pretty pointless IMO. What's our goal? What do you/we want to achieve as an individual or as a corp? Is it building ships? Making a certain amount of isk? War dec'ing IAC? What do we need to do to achieve that goal? What still needs to be done while we have the benefit of a non-hostile, low profile life in empire?

bomberesque · Post by **bomberesque** » March 28th, 2007, 10:46

For me I'd like to get back out to 0.0 fulltime, I have too short an attention span for empire isk making

do we have any membership prospects with suitable alliances? Are there places where we may be able to live in peace / hold our own independently?

OTOH, my online time is severely restricted fro the moment and probably until May (when my job finishes) so I'm fairly easy really

traveyb · Post by **traveyb** » March 28th, 2007, 12:15

bomberesque wrote:For me I'd like to get back out to 0.0 fulltime, I have too short an attention span for empire isk making

do we have any membership prospects with suitable alliances? Are there places where we may be able to live in peace / hold our own independently?

^ That. Mission running is kinda boring o.O
I would love to get back to 0.0 now

Miro Mishu · Post by **Miro Mishu** » March 28th, 2007, 15:51

I'm curious about what Alliance prospects we have cooking on the back burner..

And do we have scrouples when it comes to joining one? The reason I ask is everyone fights everyone at some time in this game. There are people there were on the 'wrong side' of the EVE war that aren't bad people, and I looked at the war as business with them. They were fighting for their side, and us ours. Beyond that, we are all just pod pilots. They just happen to be the Pod Pilots with the prime property at the moment.

The whole reason I ask is that i've heard "feck 'em" when talking about our old opponents, or "I won't do X if we join them" etc.. i'm just curious as to why? Why has it become a personal thing?

Anyhow, i'm not trying to derail this thread so early, but those are some of my questions regarding who we have on the back burner..

-Miro

friznit · Post by **friznit** » March 28th, 2007, 16:16

Miro Mishu wrote:I'm curious about what Alliance prospects we have cooking on the back burner..

Nothing at the moment. There's the Hobos, who have some vague plans to get together a bunch of ex-ISS and go raid a system or two, but they're busy pirating in empire and don't seem very serious.

As for sides, I semi-agree with you, although having been on the receiving end of some pretty unpleasant stuff from IAC and Goons I'd not be very happy working closely with them. Of course many of them are very nice, just the vocal minority (often the leadership) who I've grown to dislike. Besides, I'd kinda like to go somewhere totally different for a change

traveyb · Post by **traveyb** » March 28th, 2007, 16:23

^ Goon alt

northwesten · Post by **northwesten** » March 28th, 2007, 16:28

friznit wrote:
Nothing at the moment. There's the Hobos, who have some vague plans to get together a bunch of ex-ISS and go raid a system or two, but they're busy pirating in empire and don't seem very serious.

As for sides, I semi-agree with you, although having been on the receiving end of some pretty unpleasant stuff from IAC and Goons I'd not be very happy working closely with them. Of course many of them are very nice, just the vocal minority (often the leadership) who I've grown to dislike. Besides, I'd kinda like to go somewhere totally different for a change

I hate Goons and IAC! I don't like IAC for one bit. I would not want to be part of them. I would like to be on bob side! As far i know they be a hard nut to crack. I would like to rejoin iss as i hear they gone to bob space.

Akiakaiu · Post by **Akiakaiu** » March 28th, 2007, 16:28

We all know how much I like 0.0, so I'll prolly just do what I have done since I started. Spending as little time as possible in 0.0, unless it's kinda like 'rifis was when we first got there. It was nice and empty and was actually the most fun I had in 0.0, till, well we all knew what happened.

friznit · Post by **friznit** » March 28th, 2007, 16:57

Akiakaiu wrote:We all know how much I like 0.0, so I'll prolly just do what I have done since I started. Spending as little time as possible in 0.0, unless it's kinda like 'rifis was when we first got there. It was nice and empty and was actually the most fun I had in 0.0, till, well we all knew what happened.

With you all the way mate. Quiet mining/ratting backwater area would be nice, if such a thing exists anymore.

Ironically, 5 minutes after my last post I logged on to see a message from Hobo's talking about moving their idea along...I'll found out more tomorrow night and let you know what their plans are. Could be an interesting thing to do in the short term at least.

Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » March 28th, 2007, 17:14

i am some what with aki. i'll come out to 0.0 but only for a few reasons:

1) the political structure of the alliance we would join is not in a war, not affiliated with IAC or Goons FU™ both of them

2) not on a pipe or near empire entrance

3) not some shit space like 8MG

4) hang out with my boys

As most know I have really good agent skills, standings and agents. The only goal I got right now is CNR, standings for the new missions. With the influx of new missions I got new things to do so I am back into them. I am also brain storming ideas that our outside of the box on corp activities, which you have seen from my mission op and scavenger hunt posts. Don't worry I got more on the burner and you will be informed of them in due time. To be honest though I have put no thought into this until now and am open for anything.

centerededgedesign · Post by **centerededgedesign** » March 28th, 2007, 17:21

After having been in a war solely because we're aligned with somebody, I think our 'alliance' should remain unofficial if possible. ofc this doesn't work as well in 0.0, where you are friend or target. But could we make it work? With the use of alts, and a nice dead-end system with a deathstar and a production pos and roids/rats to eat to our heart's content, I think 5punk could survive nicely in 0.0 without joining an alliance, while we have an alt-corp to join said alliance for alts to fly about with the 'good graces' of the alliance. If the Alliance goes and pisses off an Eve superpower, 5punk still has shiny clean hands, so supporting our new allies doesn't become as difficult. but, finding a nice clean well stocked dead end system that somebody else hasn't claimed could be more difficult than finding a virgin on prom night, so my fairy tale idea may not work. A little diplomacy on our part may help with local neighbors though, and our alts participating in the regional community through an allliance.

On the other hand, I'd like an update on how ISS is doing, and if they have plans to rebuild under a different name with a new plan. I'm sure they have ideas kicking about, and their members have to want to improve their situation.

friznit · Post by **friznit** » March 28th, 2007, 18:03

All true, Dres. Though I'll point out that people in general see the Alliance before the corp - we remark at corps who are 'Ex-ISS or ex-LV' but they are not targets despite their past associations. So we could join a 'dirty' alliance for a while and then just leave if it went the wrong way. I don't want to get in deep again like I did with ISS - it was worth it at the time but we don't need that anymore. For the same reason I personally don't want to go back to ISS yet (never say never though).

centerededgedesign · Post by **centerededgedesign** » March 28th, 2007, 18:42

I vote for making 5punk an industrial power at heart, with an emphasis to supporting our own combat horses. i.e. being able to build the ships we use the most, through bpo's and possibly invention, and good stuff to fit them.

This means we could hop to anywhere there's roids and keep ourselves self supported, no matter whether it be in a war, or just whoring plexes and missions. At the heart, it gives us many options, whether we sell a single round of ammo or not.

Since membership isn't climbing though, I may hop back to Fw4ppers and recruit again soon. No reason to leave that corp to founder. In our current situation, there isn't as much need, except to emphasize that you need to Fw4pp before you 5punk.

Post by **FatherJack** » March 28th, 2007, 18:44

So would we join an alliance merely to appear blue in a certain area - thus not getting shot at by anyone observing the "not blue" rule, and then leave if the situation changed?

Apart from that most alliances probably wouldn't be very impressed with that behaviour, it might lead us to ally with people we'd rather not. Sure towards the end it got kind of embarrassing to be ISS - people took the piss out of me a few times in local - but at least their goals were more 5punky than some of the others around.

For myself I'm having more fun now than I have in a while, although I understand that a lot of us crave a bit more excitement than I'm comfortable with - but I don't think anyone craves constantly being war targets against hundreds or fighting in blobs all the while.

Being able to keep that one guy who war decd us in a window to see if he was on gave me that extra bit of confidence when hitting the undock button, and it's great only having to answer to ourselves, rather than doing what non-5punkers tell us to.

As Dres said though in 0.0 if you're not allied, you'll just get shot at by everyone - so we can't have it all.

eRabbit · Post by **eRabbit** » March 28th, 2007, 18:54

FatherJack wrote:but I don't think anyone craves constantly being war targets against hundreds or fighting in blobs all the while.

I do, makes the game more fun

traveyb · Post by **traveyb** » March 28th, 2007, 19:29

I actually miss big fleet battles!

Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » March 28th, 2007, 19:44

i don't miss lag
i don't miss 0.0 politics
i don't miss not having my own hangar
i don't miss raising the alliance dues
i don't miss scouting and checking on intel before i travel

i do miss the officer rats
i do miss the good roids
i do miss all the strangers that were blue
i do miss AAA believe it or not - only alliance that ever would fight me 1 on 1
i do miss the occasional WT

as you can see i am about even on the miss and don't miss

i ♥ 2

tho

Jin · Post by **Jin** » March 28th, 2007, 20:53

I would really like to get back out to 0.0 space but I really don't want us to find ourselves in the situation again where we're spending 3 or 4 months on a war footing doing the blob thing or where I'm sitting on a gate bored off my tits for hours on end.

Things I want to do (in no order of preferrence):

Popping some decent rats
Small gang PvP
Mining some high ends (now that I have a viable mining toon)

Unfortunately my knowledge of the political map is severly limited so I can't offer anything new as to potential new alliances for us to join but I do know that I don't want to go back to ISS at the moment.

My thoughts for what they're worth.

Fear · Post by **Fear** » March 28th, 2007, 21:16

Jin wrote:I would really like to get back out to 0.0 space but I really don't want us to find ourselves in the situation again where we're spending 3 or 4 months on a war footing doing the blob thing or where I'm sitting on a gate bored off my tits for hours on end.

Things I want to do (in no order of preferrence):

Popping some decent rats
Small gang PvP
Mining some high ends (now that I have a viable mining toon)

Basically what Monsieur Jin said.

Post by **FatherJack** » March 28th, 2007, 21:19

eRabbit wrote:I do, makes the game more fun

I guess having/being war targets I can understand - but I thought those big blob battles were just lagfest slideshows. In either case, though - would you want that ALL the while, or does coming "home" somewhere safe(r) to chill out for a bit still have its appeal?