Who'd be interested in an IPO?

Wiggy · Post by **Wiggy** » February 22nd, 2007, 0:19

Got this idea from Hehulk tonight, not sure how viable it'd be so I'm gonna post here first.

I may, in the near future, be looking for investments for my corp (i.e. me) to go buy some Capital construction BPOs. I'd be looking to raise about 5bil to fund this, and assuming I can do half myself, I'd need another 2,5bil from others. I've no idea yet on returns, but i'd guess somewhere between 6-10% per month - capital construction is a very lucrative business if done right.

I'd start on Freighters, work up to Carriers and Dreads as the money comes in, expanding my BPO collection as I go.

I know I've no numbers yet (I'll work on it one night this week) but who would be interested, and if done right, roughly how much could you see yourself investing?

Thanks, and be honest!

centerededgedesign · Post by **centerededgedesign** » February 22nd, 2007, 2:30

20 million from Dres!

Post by **fabyak** » February 22nd, 2007, 7:40

I would!
I can probably invest a couple of hundred million but I won't know an exact figure (so it could be more) until i flog the stuff my alt has

traveyb · Post by **traveyb** » February 22nd, 2007, 8:39

See what I can do for you once carrier has been purchased. I might even order my dread off you ;-) btw you still intrested in those cap ship component bpc's + archon bpc?

Wiggy · Post by **Wiggy** » February 22nd, 2007, 8:48

I certainly am interested Travey! It'd make a good start being able to do a carrier straight away. Might not be able to keep this one, but at least the next one can be mine

friznit · Post by **friznit** » February 22nd, 2007, 9:07

To save you some trouble, I've done the numbers for ISSHI already. Avoid freighters, they use alot of low ends and currently make very little profit due to the insane cost of low ends in empire. Carriers are still viable in empire and turnover is high enough these days that you can make a reasonable profit. I'll want to know more about your business plan before I say yes or no to investment, but could put in up to 1/2bill from myself and it may be that we could invest some of the the corp funds as well.

EDIT: Jon Hawkes has a very good cap ship construction sheet on his web page http://www.evehelp.myby.co.uk/
Here's some numbers to get you started:

Investment capital breakdown:

4 Dreadnought bpos - 6.66 billion
4 Carrier bpos - 4.14 billion

Capital component BPOS:
- Armour plate - 1,162,089,720.00
- Capacitor Battery - 1,032,242,400.00
- Computer System - 1,105,558,920.00
- Construction parts - 904,944,600.00
- Corporate Hangar Bay - 1,503,706,320.00
- Drone Bay - 785,051,640.00
- Jump Drive - 1,497,568,320.00
- Launcher Hardpoint - 1,254,031,200.00
- Power Generator - 1,224,056,880.00
- Propulsion Engine - 1,128,565,800.00
- Sensor Cluster - 1,082,486,880.00
- Shield Emitter - 1,176,055,200.00
- Maintenance Bay - 1,527,625,080.00
- Siege Array - 1,389,029,760.00
- Turret Hardpoint - 1,316,341,800.00

Unresearched Component Requirements:

Archon - Amarr Carrier:
- Armour plate - 11
- capacitor battery -11
- Computer System - 4
- Construction parts - 9
- Corporate Hangar Bay - 11
- Drone Bay - 44
- Jump Drive - 11
- Power Generator - 11
- Propulsion Engine - 7
- Sensor Bluster - 4
- Shield Emitter - 4
- Ship Maintenance Bay - 11

Chimera - Caldari Carrier:
- Armour Plate - 4
- Capacitor Battery - 7
- Computer System - 11
- Construction parts - 7
- Corporate Hangar Bay - 11
- Drone Bay - 39
- Jump Drive - 11
- Power Generator - 4
- Propulsion Engine - 4
- Sensor Bluster - 11
- Shield Emitter - 11
- Ship Maintenance Bay - 11

Thanatos - Gallente Carrier:
- Armour Plate - 9
- Capacitor Battery - 9
- Computer System - 9
- Construction parts - 11
- Corporate Hangar Bay - 11
- Drone Bay - 55
- Jump Drive - 11
- Power Generator - 7
- Propulsion Engine - 9
- Sensor Bluster - 9
- Shield Emitter - 7
- Ship Maintenance Bay - 11

Nidhoggur - Minmatar Carrier:
- Armour Plate - 7
- Capacitor Battery - 4
- Computer System - 7
- Construction parts - 4
- Corporate Hangar Bay - 11
- Drone Bay - 50
- Jump Drive - 11
- Power Generator - 9
- Propulsion Engine - 11
- Sensor Bluster - 7
- Shield Emitter - 9
- Ship Maintenance Bay - 11

Revelation - Amarr Dreadnought:
- Armour plate - 28
- Capacitor Battery -28
- Computer System - 11
- Construction parts - 22
- Drone Bay - 22
- Jump Drive - 11
- Power Generator - 28
- Propulsion Engine - 22
- Sensor Bluster - 17
- Shield Emitter - 11
- Siege Array - 33
- Turret Hardpoint - 33

Phoenix - Caldari Dreadnought:
- Armour plate - 11
- Capacitor Battery - 17
- Computer System - 28
- Construction parts - 17
- Drone Bay - 11
- Jump Drive - 11
- Power Generator - 11
- Propulsion Engine - 11
- Sensor Cluster - 28
- Shield Emitter - 28
- Siege Array - 44
- Turret Hardpoint - 11
- Launcher Hardpoint - 33

Moros - Gallente Dreadnought:
- Armour plate - 22
- Capacitor Battery -22
- Computer System - 22
- Construction parts - 28
- Drone Bay - 28
- Jump Drive - 11
- Power Generator - 17
- Propulsion Engine - 17
- Sensor Cluster - 22
- Shield Emitter - 17
- Siege Array - 33
- Turret Hardpoint - 33

Naglifar - Minmatar Dreadnought:
- Armour plate - 17
- Capacitor Battery - 11
- Computer System - 17
- Construction parts - 11
- Drone Bay - 17
- Jump Drive - 11
- Power Generator - 22
- Propulsion Engine - 28
- Sensor Cluster - 11
- Shield Emitter - 22
- Siege Array - 44
- Turret Hardpoint - 22
- Launcher Hardpoint - 22

As a proportion (assuming full production):

Armour plate - 109/1644*100= 6.63%
- capacitor battery - 109/1644*100= 6.63%
- Computer System - 109/1644*100= 6.63%
- Construction parts - 109/1644*100= 6.63%
- Corporate Hangar Bay - 44/1644*100= 2.68%
- Drone Bay - 266/1644*100=16.18%
- Jump Drive - 88/1644*100= 5.35%
- Launcher Hardpoint - 55/1644*100= 3.35%
- Power Generator - 109/1644*100= 6.63%
- Propulsion Engine - 109/1644*100= 6.63%
- Sensor Cluster - 109/1644*100= 6.63%
- Shield Emitter - 109/1644*100= 6.63%
- Ship Maintenance Bay - 44/1644*100= 2.68%
- Siege Array - 154/1644*100= 9.37%
- Turret Hardpoint - 121/1644*100= 7.36%

traveyb · Post by **traveyb** » February 22nd, 2007, 9:17

[WTB] Revelation ;-)
Sure Wiggy, well as I said as soon as I get my carrier sorted will bung you the BPC's and about 500mil for investment :-)

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » February 22nd, 2007, 10:36

I'm with Friz. I'll fairly happily invest, but I want to see some solid numbers first of how much profit per month you make, what much you'd want as salery, etc etc. If the whole thing went bottom up, what would be your escape plan, and what happens when you get hit by a bus?

Wiggy · Post by **Wiggy** » February 22nd, 2007, 11:37

Sounds good dudes, I'll start work on a business plan when I get home.

Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » February 22nd, 2007, 14:39

yeah what they all said but dres. not dishing out 100's of mil in isk without a plan. plan looks good i might invest 300mil right away or if i get my Amarr Navy Apocs I'll sell one and invest that so could go up to 1-1.5bil from me. so let me know when you got something all worked out.

DP