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I am SUPER FUCKING EXCITED!
Arkham Asylum was an excellent game, Arkham City was one of my favourite games ever (as evidenced by it being one of the only games I have ever completed more than once. Off the top of my head the only other game to achieve that is HL2). Arkham Origins was...OK I suppose. Not as good as the other two, but then it wasn't made by Rocksteady, who made the first two. This new one is a return to Rocksteady. Fuck. Yes.
Also: Drivable Batmobile.
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Holy shit! I am excite about that! Not played Oranges, must pick that up when it's on cheap
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I'm curious as to what they'll do with it, it's going to be hard to top City.
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Oh my!
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I got both Asylum and City free through hardware purchases, which perhaps unfairly lowered my opinion of them and I have no idea what Origins is. I haven't played them very much - the first seemed a very button-mashy-combos-I-can't-do beat em up, and the second was a hugely entertaining super-parkour rather spoiled by mandatory set pieces reverting to the type of the previous game. I think I'd have probably really enjoyed them as console games, but the PC is not where I go for punch-face simulators.
The trailer sort of confused me, and I guess modern Batman in general confuses me - he's all gritty and anti-hero, quite the reverse of the garish Adam West portrayal in the 60's series, yet the baddies are still as colourful, sparkling and much more fun, as they ever were. His super-Batmobile is basically a fast tank that should be able to flatten the city, but the baddies get away in regular cars. I love the films, but I can't think of a single superhero computer game where I am actually as cool as the on-screen version.
The Penguin..didn't look like a penguin, and Harley Quinn just looked..ugh. She did a sort of cute little hop out of the back of the truck, but that just didn't fit with the way they'd modelled her face - if I'd been excited enough that having her as a playable pre-release bonus, that would have given me second thoughts.
I hope I'm proven wrong, but anticipate more button-mashing in this release, and given the next-gen consoles or a new graphics card don't register on my radar I don't see myself playing it anytime soon.
The trailer sort of confused me, and I guess modern Batman in general confuses me - he's all gritty and anti-hero, quite the reverse of the garish Adam West portrayal in the 60's series, yet the baddies are still as colourful, sparkling and much more fun, as they ever were. His super-Batmobile is basically a fast tank that should be able to flatten the city, but the baddies get away in regular cars. I love the films, but I can't think of a single superhero computer game where I am actually as cool as the on-screen version.
The Penguin..didn't look like a penguin, and Harley Quinn just looked..ugh. She did a sort of cute little hop out of the back of the truck, but that just didn't fit with the way they'd modelled her face - if I'd been excited enough that having her as a playable pre-release bonus, that would have given me second thoughts.
I hope I'm proven wrong, but anticipate more button-mashing in this release, and given the next-gen consoles or a new graphics card don't register on my radar I don't see myself playing it anytime soon.
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If there is one criticism I have over the Arkham games its that the combat system is not well explained. At all. I struggled with it at first too, largely because I was also going at it all button mashy. It's actually more like a rhythm game than a fighter: if you are pressing a button more than once every couple of seconds you are probably doing it wrong. Once I got the hang of that it became a lot more natural, and made me feel much more like Batman. ie: badass.I haven't played them very much - the first seemed a very button-mashy-combos-I-can't-do beat em up, and the second was a hugely entertaining super-parkour rather spoiled by mandatory set pieces reverting to the type of the previous game. I think I'd have probably really enjoyed them as console games, but the PC is not where I go for punch-face simulators.
60 Adam West portrayal is not original Batman portrayal. Originally, Batman was a dark, brooding psycho and his enemies were either regular crooks (Mafia types mostly) or bonkers brightly colour clowns (literally in the case of Joker). He was around for nearly 30 years before he was camped up. In that sense, the modern Batman is a lot more true to the original intent than Adam West Batman ever was.FatherJack wrote:The trailer sort of confused me, and I guess modern Batman in general confuses me - he's all gritty and anti-hero, quite the reverse of the garish Adam West portrayal in the 60's series, yet the baddies are still as colourful, sparkling and much more fun, as they ever were.
Full disclosure: I consider Adam West Batman to be fucking shit, only of use to point at and laugh at how people used to think things that were not good were good.
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Sorry, too nonspecific in my comment.
Rhythm-based button-mashing I'm actually more inept at than just pressing buttons fast as possible. I kind of eventually almost got it in The Witcher, but I think that was mostly because I wanted to see the tits. I completely missed that's what you were supposed to do in Batbloke, as you say - it didn't really tell you, whereas Witcher did.
I'm a white middle-aged (I hope) Anglo-Saxon prole - I don't have natural rhtym (can't even spell it) godammit, give me a break in my games. I can twitch-react, icon-focus, pixel-dot-click, but rhythm on time, fuck no.
I know the Adam West era is derided and Batman is supposed to be dark, but..but.. just look at the colours, look at the art. I admit, growing up in the 70s coloured my view a bit. I had a Batman lunchbox, Batman hanky (though Spiderman pants and t-shirt) but they were all based on those 60s series. I just can't hate them.
My point was that the baddies seem still to be so as garishly overdone as they always were and the 60s series was just like "fuck it" and made Batman as much so. I 'm not sure a single Batman actor has outshone the performances of any of his nemeses in recent times, but that was never the case in the old series - who's supposed to be the hero here?
Okay - I think I get it, he's jet black - and the contrast is that the enemies give the colour. I'm finding it hard to like Batman, my childhood hero. He seems to be making things worse in Gotham, with an escalating arms race of gadgets. What are you doing Batman?
Y'see, I've watched the films, TV series and cartoons and know nothing else. I've never read a comic of him. I never really pegged Batman as that dark, that hung up on his parent's deaths that this trailer shows, I just thought he was a hero to do good.
Rhythm-based button-mashing I'm actually more inept at than just pressing buttons fast as possible. I kind of eventually almost got it in The Witcher, but I think that was mostly because I wanted to see the tits. I completely missed that's what you were supposed to do in Batbloke, as you say - it didn't really tell you, whereas Witcher did.
I'm a white middle-aged (I hope) Anglo-Saxon prole - I don't have natural rhtym (can't even spell it) godammit, give me a break in my games. I can twitch-react, icon-focus, pixel-dot-click, but rhythm on time, fuck no.
I know the Adam West era is derided and Batman is supposed to be dark, but..but.. just look at the colours, look at the art. I admit, growing up in the 70s coloured my view a bit. I had a Batman lunchbox, Batman hanky (though Spiderman pants and t-shirt) but they were all based on those 60s series. I just can't hate them.
My point was that the baddies seem still to be so as garishly overdone as they always were and the 60s series was just like "fuck it" and made Batman as much so. I 'm not sure a single Batman actor has outshone the performances of any of his nemeses in recent times, but that was never the case in the old series - who's supposed to be the hero here?
Okay - I think I get it, he's jet black - and the contrast is that the enemies give the colour. I'm finding it hard to like Batman, my childhood hero. He seems to be making things worse in Gotham, with an escalating arms race of gadgets. What are you doing Batman?
Y'see, I've watched the films, TV series and cartoons and know nothing else. I've never read a comic of him. I never really pegged Batman as that dark, that hung up on his parent's deaths that this trailer shows, I just thought he was a hero to do good.
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Which if you are mostly basing your image of Batman off the TV series and cartoons is perfectly valid. In the comics the fact that he is a bit dubious in the "heroic goodness" stakes is a recurring theme. Is he a hero, or is he just as much of a psycho as Joker, Penguin and the rest? Is he doing good and fighting crime, or is he allowing his personal issues to spiral out of control, making him inadvertently responsible for half of the things he ends up trying to prevent? Personally, I find the exploration of that grey area in the character far more interesting than, for example, the clean cut, good to the core shining beacon of pure heroism that is Superman.FatherJack wrote:Okay - I think I get it, he's jet black - and the contrast is that the enemies give the colour. I'm finding it hard to like Batman, my childhood hero. He seems to be making things worse in Gotham, with an escalating arms race of gadgets. What are you doing Batman?
Y'see, I've watched the films, TV series and cartoons and know nothing else. I've never read a comic of him. I never really pegged Batman as that dark, that hung up on his parent's deaths that this trailer shows, I just thought he was a hero to do good.
I should probably also point out that I have no problem with other people liking Adam West Batman. I don't like him, but that's just my personal taste. It doesn't mean you are wrong because your tastes are different to mine. That being said, the Arkham Batman is very much the comics Batman. Its not TV Batman, but that's not because he is modern and everything modern has to be dark. He was dark originally. In fact, original 1930's Batman was arguably darker: he was quite happy to just straight up shoot people to death with a revolver when he was first launched.