Internet Explorer 7 released

[Fear]

Info:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/default.mspx

Download:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/dow ... fault.mspx


I can't upgrade at the moment as I need to design websites for IE6 until IE7 becomes a required upgrade (November).

Be interested to know if they've un-fucked-up any stuff like CSS and border/padding directions and the loads of other annoying stuff.

Still use Firefox where I can.

[Hehulk]

Cheers Fear

*downloads*

[Stoat]

You say it'll be required? Interesting.
I installed IE7 yesterday- it's less hideous than it was in the beta. It seemed quite fast too.
I didn't realise how much I used Firefox's Find-As-You-Type though until I tried to use IE's hopeless Find function.

[Fear]

You say it'll be required? Interesting.

The new program is available as a free download on 19 October, but many will get it as an automatic update to Windows XP in November.

Tho equally interesting is:

On the day IE 7 was released, a trial version of Version 2.0 of Firefox was also put online for downloading. The finished version is due to be released in the next couple of weeks.

[Stoat]

You can also get an alpha of Firefox 3.
Not quite sure why though. My mistake, that's bollocks.
I wonder what's changed in Firefox 2 then...

[spoodie]

I wonder what's changed in Firefox 2 then...

Here's some info: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/2.0/releasenotes/
The spell checker being of the most interest for me. I've tried RC2 but it was a bit flaky for my liking.

[Stoat]

Hmm. Lots of nice developer stuff that we won't see going on too. Not sure why it isn't FireFox 1.6 though.

[pixie pie]

Not sure why it isn't FireFox 1.6 though.

I think its to show its a major upgrade. And I think moreso that it is to put it in direct competition with IE7.

[Woo Elephant Yeah]

Firefox 2 = Only noticable differences are a spell checker, and the buttons are now extra shiny

I.E 7 = Yep, if you are a system admin that allows windows updates on your site, you need to get to work quick to stop IE7, or else test out your core web based applications on it first, otherwise it will install itself, and it's damn near impossible to remove cleanly.
On a plus note I've been using the beta for several months, and I think it's a vast improvement.
Still not as quick and familiar as firefox, but a definite improvement

[TezzRexx]

So Firefox is still better then?

Also, does I.E. 7 still harvest all that nasty adware?

[Stoat]

Access keys don't seem to work in FF2 for some reason. Which is a shame, because I find them very useful on b3ta, and here too.

Handy Hint: If you don't like every tab having a close button you can sent it back to FF1 country:
address: about:config -
set browser.tabs.closeButtons to 3.

[cashy]

So Firefox is still better then?

its still the underdog it always was. and for that reason alone (im sure fanboys will tell you the other reasons) its less of a target for teh l33t h4x0rz of the world wide web.
i think of it of a case of "who would i rather hack." i'd say the one with most profit is the one with most users.

also because of the fact microsoft are playing catchup on other peoples work pisses me off. i wont give them the satisfaction of installing this personaly.

[webclam]

I.E 7 = Yep, if you are a system admin that allows windows updates on your site, you need to get to work quick to stop IE7, or else test out your core web based applications on it first, otherwise it will install itself, and it's damn near impossible to remove cleanly.

also disabling the cryptographic services on local machines with a blanket software policy change on all machines in the network will utterly disable the ability for the machines to be upgraded. on the downside, it hampers automatic update too, but it'll keep IE7 at bay for a while

[Joose]

So Firefox is still better then?

From what I gather from people, it seems to be:

IE6 < IE7 < any FF