8MB DSLMax

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » April 29th, 2006, 12:14

I got an email from Plus.net telling me they are automatically updating me to their 8MB service which I'm assuming is this DSLMax. I understand the speed of this service can flactuate and maybe even stop entirely for a short time, who has it and are you having any problems?

McBain · Post by **McBain** » April 29th, 2006, 13:59

I'm with Eclipse.co.uk and we've just switched to 8mb on their best service for the same price. The regade has apparently been done a few days ago, but now the line gets tested at different speeds for the next 10 days until they find a stable level, so I've been dropping connection a few times a night for the past couple of days. Seems better today though...

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » April 29th, 2006, 14:20

got it here with plus, quite a few connection drops, but generally pretty reliable.

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » April 29th, 2006, 16:13

Doesn't sound so bad then. A mate was telling me how dodgy his service is but he's a pessimist. Thanks

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » April 29th, 2006, 16:18

i'm generally seeing 1-3 connection drops of some kind a day (usually the evening)

does also seem to hammer routers and stuff quite hard, i had to swap filters around to get a stable connection (though the filters are 2-3 years old now)

Post by **deject** » April 29th, 2006, 19:25

spoodie wrote:I understand the speed of this service can flatuate and maybe even stop entirely for a short time, who has it and are you having any problems?

FIX'D!

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » April 29th, 2006, 19:37

No, "fluctuate" is still spelt wrong.

McBain · Post by **McBain** » April 29th, 2006, 21:29

Hmm, I don't think I can cope if it stays like this, dropping a few times a night. My understanding is after 10 days it should settle down?

Also, we've been thinking about getting a new, better router to cope with the faster speed. I wonder if that might be the problem?

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » April 29th, 2006, 22:29

McBain wrote:Hmm, I don't think I can cope if it stays like this, dropping a few times a night. My understanding is after 10 days it should settle down?

Also, we've been thinking about getting a new, better router to cope with the faster speed. I wonder if that might be the problem?

This is my worry, I'd rather stick with a stable 1MB than "upgrade" to unreliable up to 8MB

Post by **FatherJack** » April 29th, 2006, 22:53

spoodie wrote:I'd rather stick with a stable 1MB than "upgrade" to unreliable up to 8MB

This. I've never investigated anything faster than my roughly half meg connection (384k actual, both ways) as it's been super-reliable.

I have acceptable ping in games and can fill a terabyte of disk with pr0n in about a month.

The only bad thing is when you want a particular big file, fast. It's taken all week to grab the D&D Online client (good job I didn't activate the 7-day key until today) but then it has had to compete with FF7 & 8 as well as Series 1-9 of Good Eats.

I've played games on gigabit, and I don't suck any less, and there's only so much pr0n you can watch, but a single disconnection in an MMO and it could be months of graft down the crapper.

McBain · Post by **McBain** » April 30th, 2006, 7:37

But thats no reason not to go up to 2meg connection Jack. Mine was super reliable, eclipse.co.uk are one of the top rated ISP's in the UK. I'm sure (I hope) after the 10 days where they said I would have some issues, things will settle down. Otherwise I will of course be complaining to them.

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » May 3rd, 2006, 9:44

McBain wrote:But thats no reason not to go up to 2meg connection Jack.

This

Although if you try to upgrade now they'll probably try to make you have DSLMax instead.

I'm making a pro-active effort to minimise the effects of changing to the more line quality sensitive DSLMax by purchasing a decent microfilter and a RJ11 extention cable to replace my cheap telephone extention cord. Have a look at this site if you think it will help you: http://www.adslnation.com/

Post by **FatherJack** » May 3rd, 2006, 12:01

I'm happy with what I've got as it's so reliable. It has never gone on me when I've been playing a game. Not once. (From my point of view, if a service should fail, even if only for a short time, when you happen to be at a crucial stage in a game, it has failed utterly.) Part of its reliability may be because of the contention ratio - there are only three people in the city who use the service, as it was discontinued, and the company bought out by Pipex. From my point of view, if a service should fail, even if only for a short time, when you happen to be at a crucial stage in a game, it has failed utterly.

The downside of this is that we seem to be forgotten about - never have they offered to upgrade our speed (the signal arrives at 11M, but is throttled by their device) It probably means they are not upgrading/replacing the back-end kit, too - and it will one day go out of service.

Also I'd need a few things to change to someone else, I don't have an ADSL modem, or a BT phone line.

pixie pie · Post by **pixie pie** » May 3rd, 2006, 16:45

FatherJack wrote:I'm happy with what I've got as it's so reliable. It has never gone on me when I've been playing a game. Not once.

My 2Megabit from onetel hasn't ever failed on me either. Really jack, you'll notice the benefits, if not in games so much, torrents or general downloading/patching is muchly benefitted. I cannot recommend it enough.

McBain · Post by **McBain** » May 3rd, 2006, 17:18

Ditto. I don't think my 2meg ever lost my connection. Why do you think 512 is more reliable than 2 meg?

Post by **FatherJack** » May 3rd, 2006, 18:08

McBain wrote:Why do you think 512 is more reliable than 2 meg?

100% is 100% if that what you guys get, it's the same, so I guess I don't.

It's the associated hassle of getting another setup working, I might check out if my current speed can be increased, but I don't feel any particular urgency.

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » May 3rd, 2006, 18:44

So what kind of speeds are people with up to 8MB getting and what's your Downstream Line Attenuation? Assuming you know how to find that. Mine is 45 at the moment.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » May 3rd, 2006, 18:50

spoodie wrote:So what kind of speeds are people with up to 8MB getting and what's your Downstream Line Attenuation? Assuming you know how to find that. Mine is 45 at the moment.

it'd also be worth noting what speed your line is syncing at.

Upstream Speed: 448 kbps
Downstream Speed: 6528 kbps

noise margin upstream: 17 db
output power downstream: 19 db
attenuation upstream: 23 db

noise margin downstream: 3 db
output power upstream: 12 db
attenuation downstream: 40 db

according to adsl guide, my connection is running at

Speed Test Results
Downstream 3,008.9 Kbps ( = 2.9 Mbps )
Upstream 370.4 Kbps ( = 0.4 Mbps )

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » May 3rd, 2006, 19:08

My stuff looks like this

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Downstream Rate :             1152 Kbps
Upstream Rate :  	          288 Kbps 	  	 
Downstream Margin :           29 db 	  	 
Upstream Margin :  	        28 db 	  	 
Downstream Line Attenuation : 45 	  	 
Upstream Line Attenuation :   26 	  	 
Downstream Transmit Power :   0 	  	 
Upstream Transmit Power :     0

I don't pretend to understand it all but I can see my line quality is worse than yours and I don't understand why my power things are at 0 when yours aren't, if I'm reading it right.

Post by **FatherJack** » May 3rd, 2006, 19:27

Speed Test Results
Downstream 284.4 Kbps ( = 0.3 Mbps )
Upstream 398.2 Kbps ( = 0.4 Mbps )

Erm...

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