Please convince me that I NEED EVE

[bomberesque]

OK, I've been keen on the idea of EVE for a while, but I need convincing of a couple of things and can't be arsed to read the FAQ on the EVE site to find out (I know this is a B3ta related site, but I just can't, OK?)

So;

• If I have a job, how do I get the 48 hours a week that you lot seem to spend hooked up, or do you leave it on auto when you're out
  
  If I have a wife ... errr .... same question.
  
  Is it worth a newbie entry or is the whole thing too devleloped
  
  While I am sure you are all fantasticly good shots, you must get completely fried at times. What happens to the goodly hours you've put in on skills and what when this happens?
  
  Finally, my PC is not bleeding edge. It was, sort of, errr, 3 years ago. Now I'm not so. (P4 2.4 GHz, 1G Ram, 64 M API Graphics...) Is this a probelm forEVE, will she laugh at me?

Cheers

[fabyak]

1. You can do, if you want, depends what you do

2. same answer

3. You can buy clones so that if you're up to date you dont lose any skill points

4. It'll be fine! That's more than enough

bonus: WE WILL BUM YOU!

[Hehulk]

narf, most of us eve b3ta players, only clock up 20-30 hours a week. I being unemployed can clock up much more. it's surprisingly easy if you only log in for 3 hours a day (look at anham)

The wife: Ask Dog Pants. I know he logs a lot of hours a week and I've yet to hear him say his wife is complaining about him playing the game too much.

Is it worth joining now. hell yes! EVE right now has never been as open to new players as it is now. Plus if you choose to join up with 5punkorp, you'll be on the reciving end of help, advice and critism from your truely (mainly about what a waste of a ship it is to fit it out like that ) Plus fincialy aid if your ever in an unfortunate position. We take care of our own.

Being a good shot has nothing to do with it. There's more to eve than combat, but the combat involved a locking system, not actualy aiming of the guns.

Finially if your computer doesn't run eve then there's little hope for people like Joose of Amblin.

IF you fancy a free two week trial just let us know and we'll knock you up with one.

[friznit]

Easy! Stand by for a pile of replies, I would imagine. Get Eve! If you are at all interested, get Eve now!

If anything, just give it a 2 week trial. Anyone one of us can sign you up for one. And it doesn't require a credit card number to do it, unlike most other crappy MMO's **cough** WoW **cough**.

To answer your questions:

• If I have a job, how do I get the 48 hours a week that you lot seem to spend hooked up, or do you leave it on auto when you're out
  
  If I have a wife ... errr .... same question.
  
  Is it worth a newbie entry or is the whole thing too devleloped
  
  While I am sure you are all fantasticly good shots, you must get completely fried at times. What happens to the goodly hours you've put in on skills and what when this happens?
  
  Finally, my PC is not bleeding edge. It was, sort of, errr, 3 years ago. Now I'm not so. (P4 2.4 GHz, 1G Ram, 64 M API Graphics...) Is this a probelm forEVE, will she laugh at me?

1. Easy. Get addicted. I have a very busy job and yet at the mo I almost play as much as Hehulk (Woah there, I said almost!). Late nights, early mornings, all weekend. That kinda thing.

2. As above. Make sure she keeps cooking for you so you don't starve. Flowers and one night off a week for 'quality time' seem to work for those who have baggage..sorry, loving wives.

3. Noobs start all the time. Hell, I am still teh noob at only 1 month in. And you have an advantage in that you can come straight to 5punkorp for help.

4. I die regularly. And usually with a large cargo. It's part of the game. Difference being, in Eve, you actually care. But, you can get ship insurance and a clone (kinda like skillz insurance) so it's not all bad. Just costs you a bit of dosh is all. And that nice ship you just spent hour fitting out.

5. Runs on my laptop with similar specs alright. Quite an old game now.

It's a steep learning curve for sure, and can be quite daunting. But if you've ever liked Freelancer, I-War 2, Privateer, Elite, X2 or anything like that, this beats them all.

[amblin]

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[friznit]

Holy crap we're all posting at the same time. Don't mean to say told you so...but told you so

[amblin]

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[Hehulk]

Good grief. Nothing like being speedy is there...

We're actually more helpful than this in game. expect free ships, mods, etc.

[friznit]

"Help me Obi Wan Kenobi" would have got an immediate answer instead of taking 3 films and several years. We're that helpful.

[Anhamgrimmar]

OK, I've been keen on the idea of EVE for a while, but I need convincing of a couple of things and can't be arsed to read the FAQ on the EVE site to find out (I know this is a B3ta related site, but I just can't, OK?)

So;

• If I have a job, how do I get the 48 hours a week that you lot seem to spend hooked up, or do you leave it on auto when you're out
  
  If I have a wife ... errr .... same question.
  
  Is it worth a newbie entry or is the whole thing too devleloped
  
  While I am sure you are all fantasticly good shots, you must get completely fried at times. What happens to the goodly hours you've put in on skills and what when this happens?
  
  Finally, my PC is not bleeding edge. It was, sort of, errr, 3 years ago. Now I'm not so. (P4 2.4 GHz, 1G Ram, 64 M API Graphics...) Is this a probelm forEVE, will she laugh at me?

Cheers

ok, lets have a look here. hehulk is teh main man, and seems to spend his life on eve, but i'll have a go

1. i too have a job, but you dont HAVE to play for stupid amounts of time. Around 10 hours a week could bring in decent amounts of cash, and if you log in, change skills and log out (more on this later) you dont have to play for long at all.

Leaving the game on auto is ok, but theres no need. and macro mining makes baby jesus cry.

2. ask dogpants, he manages to juggle his missus, his eve habit, and call of duty quite well. sems to work out, anyway.

3. You wont catch the longest established players, but there is a law of diminishing returns. you'll not get to 100% as good as the uber players, but you can get to 90-95% if you see what i mean.

4. its not really about reflexes (ie like a flight sim) its more a case of double click to fly here, click this to shoot him etc.
you level up, by chooseing a skill to train (guns/missiles/navigation/engineering etc) and wait till the skill training is complete. you dont even have to be online, your skills continue training.

each skill has a number of skill points, level one gunnery might have 500 points, level five 1million SP's. you actually are a clone in game, and if your clone cant hold all these skills when you die you loose SP's. if your clone can hold more sp's than you have, you loose no skills. each level of clone costs more, but holds more sp's.

back to the law of diminishing returns. if you have 1million skill points, and your clone holds 1.6mill of sp's, if you get fragged, your ok and your clone only costs a couple of thousand moneys. apart from the loss of the ship/guns/missiles etc. But if you get into a fight with an uber player, who has 93427974378 million skill points, even if his clone can hold that many skill points, his clone costs millions of quids. if he didnt have a good enough clone, he will loose a hell of a lot of skill points.

4. mate, your PC is an order of magnitude better than mine (athlon 1400XP, 512mb ram, and a geforce fx5700.) the only reasson i'm upgrading is cos my rig wont play Q4 or FEAR.

5. there is no number 5

6. Mohammed!

phew. my RSI is playing up. any more questions, i'd ask hehulk or the other longer term players, there more likely to know things

oh, and welcome by the way. (check the stickies at the top of this forum, theres a lot of good gen there)

[Anhamgrimmar]

damn, when i started typing that lot, there was no one else here!

[Grimmie]

1. People will hug you and bum you hard.


That is all you need to know.
Grab a free trial from Hehulk, have a dabble around and see if you enjoy it

[Dog Pants]

Most of your questions have been covered pretty well by the good chaps above, so I won't repeat them.

The wife thing I can sympathise with though. Luckily for me Mrs Pants has known about my gaming habit since we met, so she's pretty understanding.
She doesn't really like me spending loads of time on Eve, but I set aside a couple of nights for gaming and the rest for her and the weekends I play by ear depending on what we're doing. Also, she works/goes to college several nights a week so I get some dedicated gaming in then.

Sometimes I go a bit overboard and have to do a bit of firefighting to keep her happy, but she only really gets upset when she suggests doing something and I say 'Oh right, it's just that we've got a corp mining op then'. I learned to stop doing that though.

And if you couldn't be arsed reading all that the short version is:
Don't spend too much time on it, and let her know in advance when you're going to play it so you can get a good few hours play.

Phew.

[Hehulk]

See, helpful we are. Now, where's dog pants and shot2bits....

EDIT: Drat, there he is...

[shot2bits]

1. ask hehulk
2. ask hehulk
3. ask hehulk
4. same as the above


and hope to be bumming you soon

and sorry i havnt been on much guys, women trouble

[Hehulk]

Blimy, every active member of 5punkorp replied within an hour. that's just nuts.....

Why can't you guys put this kinda effort into corp mining O.O

[Grimmie]

Even I replied..
And I'm not even playing it anymore!

How's THAT for commitment?

[FatherJack]

If I have a job, how do I get the 48 hours a week that you lot seem to spend hooked up, or do you leave it on auto when you're out

I have a job, and far too many other new games clamouring for my attention, but I try to slip in a fews hours later in the evening and at weekends when there's less FPS action going on (although I was away this weekend and missed loads of 5cheduled stuff). You continue learning skills even when logged off - so time logged in doesn't have as much bearing on how good you can be.

If I have a wife ... errr .... same question.

If you are in the same room as where she's watching TV or something you can still spend time together and talk, while there are times you have to concentrate, quite a lot of the time it doesn't need your constant attention.

Edit: In addition she may come over to see what you find so interesting, and get into it, too. My SO "hated all games" until I surreptitiously played the Sims in front of her.

Is it worth a newbie entry or is the whole thing too devleloped

I'm very much still a newbie, but all the existing 5punkcorpers have been very nice and helpful to me with cash and advice, even when I smeg everything up. In addition to the ingame tutorial there are a couple of excellent newbie guides posted around here, written by 5punkers - which basically answered every question I had in my first week.

While I am sure you are all fantasticly good shots, you must get completely fried at times. What happens to the goodly hours you've put in on skills and what when this happens?

You don't aim, the computer does - and you get better at it by buying bits for your ship, plus following the story mode pits you against enemies you can cope with. There are player killers, though, who can take out even the best of us when alone - but that's why you play with friends. You can buy insurance for skills and ships, but you do lose cash and stuff you care about when you die. You can stay in high-security space where you're less likely to be attacked and have police protection - but it's meant to be a PvP game, and that fact that you actually lose money rather than just being inconvenienced makes it all the more exciting.

Some would say they don't need that kind of excitement, so here's one tip I didn't spot in the FAQs: the System Map has an option to show "Ships destroyed in last hour" - if there's a big red blob where you're headed it might be time to set a course-change. Most are the PKers I've encountered are far from the noble image of pirates who demand ransoms from wealthy traders, but victims of school bullies who are quite happy to pod you in an empty shuttle - as a result their gate-camping tactics are easy enough to spot with this method.

[amblin]

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[Sol]

Oh god someone help me, i am getting severly tempted by this....

What is the monthly fee?