So what's next?

Morrill · Post by **Morrill** » March 29th, 2007, 14:09

friznit wrote:
We have one. It's called Fw4ppers.

I did not know if we would want Fw4ppers used in that way. I still have Validus as corp that has been creted for some time. Just lef tit open wiht an ALt as it had some age on it and would volunteer it as well. Has no rep but has been around for some time. Thus would not reflect a newb corp saying "hey let us join you!" It has been in ISS though.

Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » March 29th, 2007, 14:14

i for one am content being in empire. the whole setting up pos in empire thing has got me thinking of turning it into a service for any corporation in EVE but corps in Goons and IAC for Pete.

The influx of new missions has made that more exciting for me (lost kennys Domi yesterday but man it was fun, he went down like a noob b**** in flames) Where ever the corp goes I'll be, only will have what I need, I lost too much stuff on the last move and office closings that I refuse to let it happen again (besides the cans I can't find my cruor, I am personally traveling to every office this weekend and every hangar with all my char but so far under dolly and kenny nothing).

I know there are some members that do not want to go but will go to be with friends. their was an idea brought up of starting an empire/mission division of 5punk and it sounds intriguing, based around high and low sec mission hubs. Being low security will also give us the option on small gang pvp without concord.

fw4ppers is training corp from what i was told this one would be more fu™ we do what we want when we want, hell privateers could declare i wouldn't care i actually enjoyed their company

MORDETH LESTOK · Post by **MORDETH LESTOK** » March 29th, 2007, 14:19

Fear wrote:What if 5punk and hobos (and maybe that other ex-issn one) were to join horses (whether an official alliance or not doesn't matter) and then go claim a system somewhere and start trying to take territory (need the alliance for sov is suppose).

friznit wrote:AFAIK this is exactly what they have in mind.

When I'm able to come back...this small scale alliance sounds very appealing to me. I like working my way up to the top and being a factor in it. Of course I'm still a noob

friznit · Post by **friznit** » March 29th, 2007, 14:42

Dolly Parton wrote:Stuff

We can rerole fw4ppers how we want. It's pretty much a holding corp at the moment for people who don't want to be in 5punkorp for one reason or another.

We can specifiy a desire for no empire wars in any alliance we form/join so our empire dwellers can stay safe. Or if we did pick up an irritating dec like the Pvtrs, we still have the alt corps. I'm personally averse to having too many alt corps though - it detracts from the corp ethic too much and becomes logistically and administratively painful.

I know for a fact that your Cruor made it to Elgoi btw. You really should check the secure hangar there again. There's all sorts of stuff which I think belongs to you . Everything we own is in now in Elgoi so if it's not there it can only be in someone's personal hangar somewhere.

Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » March 29th, 2007, 15:08

slight problem with that friz, dolly is not in 5punk which is why I was going to wait till this weekend before making a stink about anything. i know its just confusion from all the moves which is why i have said nothing till now. also i think dolly is only one of my char that can view there. thanks i noticed it was missing only in last few days.

i am going to head back to 5punk either tonight or tomorrow most likely so if fea can do his thing for me I can get to setting up the other station and bring some bp to morril and them for research.

k teacher is bitching about people on computer and not payinhg attention to class so i will finish this later

dp

Morrill · Post by **Morrill** » March 29th, 2007, 15:41

Friz I think you bring a good point to the multi-corp issue. We could get to fractured. From personal experience of having two mains (fighter and miner) in separate corps (5punk & OGPC) it did become a bit distracting and I found myself being stretched a bit on relationships with both.

On the other side 5punk is a strong group. I feel very comfortable in the bonds of the group as a whole. My main char is a 5punker. My alts to me are just that. They serve a logistical purpose. I have 3 chars that are at lest 1 year old in skills and 3 others that provide support. I have to say if we did the Ninja system with group in other alliances as scout I could use all my chars. The great thing about the chat channels is even my char that are not in 5punk itself still get the feel. Jack Slaide who I am using for 5punkience still gets to communicate on any of the 3 channels I have open for 5punkers. Jack though is also working for the better of the corp. in his role of helping to run the research POS. Thus still apart of the corp. I believe unless it is a fringe character that is really not a 5punker at heart the bonds of the group will stay. I.e. Jack in 5punkience. Morrill in 5punk (he is the soon to be carrier pilot) and if needed Kasanyon can go with a new group.

I’m not much a role player but can’t you see it.

Kasanyon and Erabbit (random name) disengaged from the massive convoy as the fleet jumped thought the gate, cloaking and moving deeper into space. Reaching their final destination the energy began to swirl around as the cyno generator spun. With a flash three carriers of 5punk appeared in space. (Enter Titan with support ships when the time comes) The coms crackle. “This is Feafalas good to see you guys.”

“Glad to see you as well. Our final destination is planet 3 moon 2. I think we'll will be able to stay here for a lest a week or two before anyone picks up on our position”

You get the picture.

Morrill

bomberesque · Post by **bomberesque** » March 29th, 2007, 16:05

Morrill wrote:stuff

I quite like this idea, except for the amount of logistics that <s>we</s> Friz would end up doing to make it work.

if it could be made to work with minimum effort and be proved to be profitable, then an 0.0 raid (a la mini-caravan) might be quite cool

How would this pan out?

Buy Small tower, refinery, fuel for a week
Stuff the pos and fuel in a hauler scouted by a cyno-fitted ...um .. scout. (tower and fuel should be <5000 cum) and jump it in to the selected system during a quiet period.
Once the pos is up and everyones on, carriers jump in the mining barges ,a couple of T2 tanked BCs and the refinery.
Mine like buggery for a predetermined period, refining as we go, jumping the mins back to emp.
2 days later, strike camp and all to Missus Miggins pod-cafe for tea and crumpets

Properly tanked BC can take the rats, all to the POS in case of nasties in local, which would avoid the need to fly in BS support

Max risk should be the small tower itself, and perhaps the refinery, should it get hit when no-one's on to offline it

Costs (and this is the bit I'm really not sure on) would include the tower and jump fuel, not sure how much we could reasonably make to offset this.

Or do I fail?

traveyb · Post by **traveyb** » March 29th, 2007, 16:18

3 carriers in a small POS is a very tight squeeze (even with fea's one aswell

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amblin · Post by **amblin** » March 29th, 2007, 16:31

centerededgedesign · Post by **centerededgedesign** » March 29th, 2007, 17:28

Yus, the only thing I could see as a problem with Fabyak's plan was the getting people into the area. Jumping ships in with carriers is all good, the people w/out cov ops getting in is the problem. How does the clone bay on a carrier work? Could we park JC's on it and jump to the carrier?

Would make our little ninja mining work very well! Of note though, would we have need of a ship maint bay to park the carriers in? Also, we'd probably need a hangar array for ore/mins at least. If not ammo and such for the rat support.

Also, if we all train up T2 light drones, rats wouldn't last long with 4-5 covetors lighting them up! Mix in some light armor reps, and we could self-support pretty well with barges.

friznit · Post by **friznit** » March 29th, 2007, 17:42

Clone vats are Mothership toys, Dres. They're a little out of our price range right now.

In the interests of harmony shall we vote to rename Fea to Flea?

/runs

Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » March 29th, 2007, 17:53

i would stress that some people step up and relieve some pos load from friz. honestly people its not that hard just tedious. if no one helps friz with the pos logistic stuff i say hell no to a pos. its just not fair to him (unless we buy him a faction fitted hac every year then sure

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i vote for flea. can't believe it wasn't brought up sooner to be honest with the similarities.

centerededgedesign · Post by **centerededgedesign** » March 29th, 2007, 17:54

But if we upgrade Fea's carrier to a Mothership, doesn't it fit his role in the corp better? Also, wouldn't it be at least as large as the other carriers then? That way he wouldn't feel so 'insignificant'....
/me follows Friz!

traveyb · Post by **traveyb** » March 29th, 2007, 17:57

Thought friz was mommy?

Motherships are rather...erm pricey...you dont need that many skills for them, but fighters 5, carrier 5, and loads of other toys at 5 for a start

Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » March 29th, 2007, 17:58

centerededgedesign wrote:But if we upgrade Fea's carrier to a Mothership, doesn't it fit his role in the corp better? Also, wouldn't it be at least as large as the other carriers then? That way he wouldn't feel so 'insignificant'....
/me follows Friz!

it also puts a huge target on his ass. hey we got a mothership here oh shit get the blob, we'll get him logging off (cause a mother ship can not dock like a carrier - i do believe)

friznit · Post by **friznit** » March 29th, 2007, 21:48

k. Bunged a plan up on the 0.0 forum here. If you havn't got access poke one of the forum mods to get yourself added.

amblin · Post by **amblin** » March 29th, 2007, 22:42

centerededgedesign · Post by **centerededgedesign** » March 30th, 2007, 23:01

Shall we vote on the plan?

Taraniis · Post by **Taraniis** » March 31st, 2007, 18:16

Hold on there chaps, just had a quick read of the plan. Has anyone not thought towards FLA or some of the other alliances like G.U.A.R.D? As far as I know the FLA isn't involved in the war.

I can certainly speak for the FLA when I say they are actually pretty good at fighting. Gankster Paradise got them out of their strange habit of pvping with ratting setups on. As for G.U.A.R.D and the others, they look pretty well established out in the new regions and again, as far as I am aware they are staying out of the war.

friznit · Post by **friznit** » March 31st, 2007, 18:47

Er, might want to read this post before you say anything about FLA

Hobo's have been at war with FLA for the last couple of weeks and I can't say I'm terribly impressed narf.

I know nothing about GUARD, other than what's already been said about the new regions and how much of a melting pot they are. What are the entry requirments for GUARD?