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The Shutting Downs wrote:I've been putting together another backup, and was wondering, in the book, it has SMG's as under the pistol skill, but looking at some of the ones Pants has made in his hardware catalogue (namely the FEN 082 'clipper') you'd be very hard pressed to claim one handed.

Part of the reason I'm redrawing the weapons. Although even in SLA there seems to be a bit of a vagueness between a machine pistol and an SMG. The FEN 603 has a full auto setting but is classed as a pistol. The FEN 204 has a faster firing full auto, but is an SMG despite looking like the bastard child of a 603 and a video camera. The GA 50 looks like a proper SMG, but is classed as a rifle. In short, I don't get it either.

Glad to know its not just me...

GA 9442 Browbeater

Browbeater looks a lot more menacing than I thought it would.

The one in the books is a bit podgier than that, but they do fire 30 golf balls a second.

The Browbeater is a Shiver weapon isn't it?

Yeah. Supposed to be non-lethal, but if you've got no armour on then getting hit by a hail of golf balls is pretty dangerous.

FEN 93 GAG


Took bloody ages because the original is so smooth and shiny. Very heavily photoshopped.

Looks like a HK G11, but a bit flatter

Piss, just noticed it's got no port, bolt, charging handle, or anything else that makes guns go bang. Erm.... They're on the other side. It's left handed.

No it's an electrically fired weapon that uses caseless ammunition.

Dog Pants wrote:Piss, just noticed it's got no port, bolt, charging handle, or anything else that makes guns go bang. Erm.... They're on the other side. It's left handed.

Well, apart from the ejection port, having the bolt and handle on the left doesn't mean it has to be a lefty, some guns do like the MP5, G3 etc...

buzzmong wrote:
Well, apart from the ejection port, having the bolt and handle on the left doesn't mean it has to be a lefty, some guns do like the MP5, G3 etc...

Stery AUG just needs about 20 mins and the right spanners to be a lefty. EJ port is still wrong unless its like an FN2000 and ejects forward.

or like Berk and DJ said, caseless rounds dont need ejection ports

FEN 603

Wow, is that from reference pictures Pantsu? I really expected it to look more like your bog standard Colt 1911 or Browning style pistol.

Yeah, that's a slightly less hairdryery imagining of the pictures in the books. I'd like it to look like a big automatic, but it just doesn't. Still, the thing can fire full auto so realistically there's no reason to expect it to look like a normal handgun. I still think it's ugly, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Some guns are.

that's like a 1.5" barrel!

Yeah. There's a picture with description on p252 of the main rule book, and a very similar gun appears twice more in other places and other books. Alas, all evidence points towards the 603 being a very strange fish. I always pictured the 204 as a beefier, stubbier version of an MP5, but that would appear to be just a bigger version of a 603.

FEN 204 Gunhead

Holy..
Try carrying that around and remain looking cool.