BSOD on Beef

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » July 3rd, 2007, 14:48

northwesten wrote:least i dont have p[roblem with BF2142

Except that no-one plays it

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » July 3rd, 2007, 14:52

friznit wrote: Can you recommend a driver cleaner?

www.drivercleaner.net as hosted by Bobbins is pretty good.

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » July 3rd, 2007, 15:10

Lateralus wrote:
www.drivercleaner.net as hosted by Bobbins is pretty good.

Guaranteed to clean every last bit of manure out the system

northwesten · Post by **northwesten** » July 3rd, 2007, 15:12

mrbobbins wrote:
Except that no-one plays it

yer that sucks

MrGreen · Post by **MrGreen** » July 3rd, 2007, 15:16

northwesten wrote:
yer it sucks

Fix'd.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » July 3rd, 2007, 15:32

Lateralus wrote:
http://hairy-arse.com/Driver Cleaner.NET.rar as hosted by Bobbins is pretty good.

url fix'd for proper

friznit · Post by **friznit** » July 3rd, 2007, 15:55

Odd. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but whenever I click on that link I get taken to some odd site to do with toy horses.

Also: cupcake

Also: I'm using 158.19 at the mo. Will try updatermerating to 158.22 and let you know if it makes fuck all difference.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » July 3rd, 2007, 16:21

if you copy that link, it'll work.

but horsing is good too

Post by **FatherJack** » July 3rd, 2007, 16:35

Nvidia drivers should be removed completely before reinstalling new ones. I'm told bits even stay around after a Control Panel uninstall, and was recommended the driver cleaner thingy. Unfortunately having an nVidia motherboard it also removes the network, on-board sound, RAID and mobo drivers at the same time, which is a PitA.

Trying to find out what board drivers, nVTune and all the rest were current at the time of graphics driver X is next to impossible, but most have issues with a GPU driver rev that isn't compatible - so you're stuck with manual BIOS tuning and have to do your own stability tests.

I got tired of the shag and just used the graphic driver uninstall, so it wasn't technically clean. In the end I decided I just wanted the option to have the "latest of everything" and with the current XP+8800 mess only Fista gives me that choice.

I too have selected more conservative memory timings, makes next-to-no difference in benchmarks - so the only difference (apart from the fuck-off huge hole in my wallet) is that I'll probably be able to use this memory for my next few machines.

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » July 3rd, 2007, 16:40

No-one ever suspects...

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » July 3rd, 2007, 16:54

FatherJack wrote:Nvidia drivers should be removed completely before reinstalling new ones. I'm told bits even stay around after a Control Panel uninstall, and was recommended the driver cleaner thingy.

All of that

</Best Practice>Personally, the only time I do anything like a clean install is when I have problems, Otherwise I just install drivers over drivers. with no issues. <Best Practice>

FatherJack wrote:Unfortunately having an nVidia motherboard it also removes the network, on-board sound, RAID and mobo drivers at the same time, which is a PitA.

The newer Drivercleaner (as in my horse link) lets you remove bits separately. which is nice

northwesten · Post by **northwesten** » July 3rd, 2007, 17:31

friznit wrote:Odd. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but whenever I click on that link I get taken to some odd site to do with toy horses.

Also: berk

Also: I'm using 158.19 at the mo. Will try updatermerating to 158.22 and let you know if it makes fuck all difference.

My ears are bleeding! I still clicked on that dam link and I forgot my speaker are up on my powerful Hi-Fi so i think with the Windows wide open the whole Village heared my song

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » July 3rd, 2007, 22:18

I appear to have fixed my issues (Remember not just beef related, I was only able to Run Orthos for about 10 mins before crashing)

Lowering my RAM latency (Speed is still the same) sorted it out and I just played many rounds of beef without a single crash whereas before it would crash every single time within 5 mins.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » July 3rd, 2007, 22:23

I'd certainly suggest running it through memtest a few times.

ISTR 680i works best with a ram voltage around 2.1 (any higher than that and RMA:ENGAGE after a month or so)

Post by **deject** » July 3rd, 2007, 22:25

mrbobbins wrote:Lowering my RAM latency (Speed is still the same) sorted it out and I just played many rounds of beef without a single crash whereas before it would crash every single time within 5 mins.

do you mean actually lowering the numbers (5 -> 4) or slowing them down (4 -> 5)?

if you did the former, it'd be rather odd that it made your PC more stable...

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » July 3rd, 2007, 22:51

Lowering the speed I guess, so increasing the numbers 4 to 5 etc. it's still running at 800mhz

Planning to leave memtest on while I'm at work tomorrow.

Also will remember to manually set voltage (Which I planned but forgot

)

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » July 3rd, 2007, 22:57

Apparently to fix my beef, I had to reinstall it. Twice.

Post by **deject** » July 3rd, 2007, 23:50

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:

Apparently to fix my beef, I had to reinstall it. Twice.

reinstall it in the butt?

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » July 3rd, 2007, 23:51

Nope.

northwesten · Post by **northwesten** » July 4th, 2007, 6:43

deject wrote:
reinstall it in the butt?

what like this?

Restalling the buttt