
and putting under the circled area:

the built in exhaust on the 8 series is good, but as these are the quickest cards EVAR they do need a little help. Hope this helps 5punkers.
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That's a fair point actually. Pentium 2 anyone?deject wrote:I've filled all the slots in my PC including the one right next to my videocard. I've got a TV Tuner, soundcard, and wi-fi card, which takes up all 3 of the PCI slots my mobo has. Thank god my videocard only has a single slot cooler or I'd have to dump the tuner card. To be perfectly honest, nVidia and AMD/ATI need to get their fucking act together and stop releasing these super power hungry, furnace cards. If Intel can go from the Pentium D to Core 2, and to difference in power consumption and heat generation that is, so can they, and they need to fast. This shit is getting out of hand.
Well, PCI-E 2.0 can allow external cabling, and I can imagine that either it will get all external, or we hit the brick wall in graphic rendering (well, they do say this every decade), which gives us time to make more efficient, smaller cards.deject wrote:AMD/ATI need to get their fucking act together and stop releasing these super power hungry, furnace cards. If Intel can go from the Pentium D to Core 2, and to difference in power consumption and heat generation that is, so can they, and they need to fast. This shit is getting out of hand.


Well they are overpriced, perhaps more so than ever - the very first GeForce card came out at around £230 and everyone screamed about it then, although it was a revolution.Woo Elephant Yeah wrote:I think the cost of new graphics cards is absolutely disgusting and holds back the PC gaming industry from the masses.
I think this is where the whole problem lies. Instead of making these bottom end cards run with hardly any extra cooling. Sure they could adapt these chipsets so they run without any cooling, or if they underclocked a higher chipset to this level, it definitely wouldn't need cooling. But they don't do this, they let them 'drop off the bottom'.FatherJack wrote: we lose the one off the bottom and start all over again.
I have no idea where Intel are with their onboard GPUs - while it would be impractical to have devices which needed lots of cooling, performance around the level of the £25 cards should be possible now with hardly any extra cooling at all.

Actually, I recently read that ATI & Nvidia are being investigated for price fixing in a recent article on engadget. So they must have some pretty strong evidence in order to take on something like that.pixie pie wrote:As for price fixing, they kinda are, but I doubt they've officially gone to each other and said "We'll set ours this if you do the same with yours", Multi Million companies wouldn't be able to get away with it. But then again, you can never be entirely sure what goes on behind the scenes. *Sits on fences*
*Waves hand like he's waving away the issues (or like he's a faaabulous)*Woo Elephant Yeah wrote: Actually, I recently read that ATI & Nvidia are being investigated for price fixing in a recent article on engadget. So they must have some pretty strong evidence in order to take on something like that.