whats ISS and IAC loses so far

northwesten · Post by **northwesten** » December 24th, 2006, 15:41

ok i was woundering how much in all have we lost ISK since the war? IAC in every channel i in (Friends) and they saying crap like we lost 15bil in first 3 days with carriers.

and 1.5bil in the last 15 hours. So whats the truth of this?

and how much have ISS lost? i mean grr they saying crap that i know didnt happen and they are so freacking annoying

bomberesque · Post by **bomberesque** » December 24th, 2006, 17:03

err ... pete

first off, not to put too fine a point on it but IAC are waging a war against us. Perhaps you should wait until it's over before discussing anything with them? I'm certain that you're not discussing anything sensitive with them but zero comms would be best, imo.

As for losses and gains, they could be summerised thus;

KB points; the campaign page still seems not to be updating but the IAC K/L page on ISIS says that they have killed 8,600.94 pts against our 10,287.71 pts. 1 point is estimated at 1 Mill ISK value so that would suggest that they have taken in the region of 1.7bn isk more than us in ship losses.

Actually, I'm glad you asked me to look this up coz it's the first time I've seen us ahead in this war. Until now, IAC have lead us in points on our own KB and it is true that this has been largely due to our carrier losses. We have lost 4 (one of which was Fix carrier, which our board counts as a loss to ISS). 4 carriers = around 2 Bn loss according to the KB.

An outpost, on the other hand is worth in the region of 30bn, iirc. That's not to mention their POS losses. we took that in the last 15 hours, perhaps they were referring to their own losses.

Thus, you can rest assured that IAC are not currently winning this conflict by any measure. It is true that we have lost 4 carriers (at least 3 to silly mistakes) but it is testament to the depth of our reserve as an alliance that it did not even slow us down (as I had feared it might)

Fact is that we have IAC on the back foot at the moment. Unfortunately the timing of the conflict has matched rather inconveniently with Xmas mass afk-age and so there's little going on at the mo, which may give IAC time to regroup somewhat. People are getting very ansey about this on the forums and some are pushing very hard for ISS to be online atm. I find this quite hard to put up with when I am trying to put a gang together to counterattack an IAC gate camp and I find Lilan Kahn and Chaos Hybrid selling each other rat loot in alliance but maybe that's just me.

I strongly suggest that we all stay off the ISS forums (certainly the inflamatory ones) and letr Fea / Friz speak for us when necessary for the next few days. there are a lot of trolls there and the discontent that is being stirred is dangerous indeed.

If you are going to talk to IAC at all, I suggest that you take the line that we do not want this conflict and that they should push their own management to sue for peace. do not .... do NOT get drawn in by smak .. unless it's my smak

Merry xmas all, I'm off out for a curry

northwesten · Post by **northwesten** » December 24th, 2006, 17:36

bomberesque wrote:err ... pete

first off, not to put too fine a point on it but IAC are waging a war against us. Perhaps you should wait until it's over before discussing anything with them? I'm certain that you're not discussing anything sensitive with them but zero comms would be best, imo.

If you are going to talk to IAC at all, I suggest that you take the line that we do not want this conflict and that they should push their own management to sue for peace. do not .... do NOT get drawn in by smak .. unless it's my smak

i not giving them any info on them really about what iss lost etc. And with they started it etc what i been saying!! I blocked loads of IAC. TO be honest in that channel i know tho guys know i right that we not getting spanked etc.

They basicly feeding bullcrap they so great and i was saying you're not!! end of. So in turn i dont wana and not going to bother talking to IAC because they are arseholes. I hope we kill them soon or someone else will for us!

Now as i been playing the game almost 2 and half year i now how to hand with hostiles! I dont give them intel on are losses or anything but i was requiring about it because i was woundering. There smack tho ends fast with Block

bomberesque · Post by **bomberesque** » December 24th, 2006, 17:46

fair enough Pete, I wasn't meaning to suggest that you were letting any intel go, only that it's dangerous times atm and to coin an old phrase "loose lips sink ships".

Best place to keep track of K/L is ISIS kill board as I linkied above.

Anyone have IAC KB link? it would be interesting to compare

/edit and anytime any IAC suggest IAC losses < ISS losses, ask them for a price on an outpost. Should shut them up.

northwesten · Post by **northwesten** » December 24th, 2006, 18:35

bomberesque wrote:fair enough Pete, I wasn't meaning to suggest that you were letting any intel go, only that it's dangerous times atm and to coin an old phrase "loose lips sink ships".

Best place to keep track of K/L is ISIS kill board as I linkied above.

Anyone have IAC KB link? it would be interesting to compare

/edit and anytime any IAC suggest IAC losses < ISS losses, ask them for a price on an outpost. Should shut them up.

agreed! and no i dont know the IAC but i like to know my self tho