Think the problem last night is there didn't actually seem to be anyone in command...or anything much happening. I left fairly early on but the fleet had just been stood down until further notice, but people were still hammering Marginis channel for invites.
On the topic of the OP, my firm belief is that someone is playing both ends against the middle. Tin foil hattery aside, telling IAC that ISS are about to start shooting (fuck knows why they'd actually believe that but then, IAC can be pretty dumb) and then telling ISS that IAC are about to take Marginis... sounds like someone's laughing all over the place.
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northwesten
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agreefriznit wrote: On the topic of the OP, my firm belief is that someone is playing both ends against the middle. Tin foil hattery aside, telling IAC that ISS are about to start shooting (fuck knows why they'd actually believe that but then, IAC can be pretty dumb) and then telling ISS that IAC are about to take Marginis... sounds like someone's laughing all over the place.
It did have that feel about it.friznit wrote:On the topic of the OP, my firm belief is that someone is playing both ends against the middle. Tin foil hattery aside, telling IAC that ISS are about to start shooting (fuck knows why they'd actually believe that but then, IAC can be pretty dumb) and then telling ISS that IAC are about to take Marginis... sounds like someone's laughing all over the place.
Yeah us minions did quite well running <strike>around like headless chickens</strike> around sorting POS's etc.
Pass, eRabbit, Jin, and myself I think it was. Just so you know where to send the medals. ;-) And Dor giving us permissions to things we needed but couldn't get to.
One thing that would be useful.... can we give the Pos Mgr's permissions to access the things needed in such cases. Keep the stront in Pos Stuffs. Also we wouldn't have had access to the ammo to replenish the POS guns if pew pew had started. Though at the same time I understand why you need to limit this access, I think a few more trusted peeps would be nice. When it first came in that ZX could be attacked any second it was just me, Ly, Pass and Travey, and we had fuck all rights between us. :-) Luckily Rabbit and Fab were on xfire, and Dor was soon on the scene.
Perhaps the Pos Mgr role could be divided into "POS Industry" and "POS Security" or something?
I think it is either a distraction to set up the Outpost (in which case has I will have lost a lot of respect for ISS) - or someone is trying to stir up trouble. narf I would say both are equally probable as I've seen ISS management bending the truth just to illicit the response they need in the past.
Part of the reason I can't be arsed to go on ISSN gangs now is I turn up on time, and then have to wait an hour for them to get sorted. With the new fleet system I can only imagine how poorly they execute that. We must be the only alliance that has a single gang going at any one time.
Pass, eRabbit, Jin, and myself I think it was. Just so you know where to send the medals. ;-) And Dor giving us permissions to things we needed but couldn't get to.
One thing that would be useful.... can we give the Pos Mgr's permissions to access the things needed in such cases. Keep the stront in Pos Stuffs. Also we wouldn't have had access to the ammo to replenish the POS guns if pew pew had started. Though at the same time I understand why you need to limit this access, I think a few more trusted peeps would be nice. When it first came in that ZX could be attacked any second it was just me, Ly, Pass and Travey, and we had fuck all rights between us. :-) Luckily Rabbit and Fab were on xfire, and Dor was soon on the scene.
Perhaps the Pos Mgr role could be divided into "POS Industry" and "POS Security" or something?
I think it is either a distraction to set up the Outpost (in which case has I will have lost a lot of respect for ISS) - or someone is trying to stir up trouble. narf I would say both are equally probable as I've seen ISS management bending the truth just to illicit the response they need in the past.
Part of the reason I can't be arsed to go on ISSN gangs now is I turn up on time, and then have to wait an hour for them to get sorted. With the new fleet system I can only imagine how poorly they execute that. We must be the only alliance that has a single gang going at any one time.
For those of you who don't know yet, IAC have officially set ISS to -10. We are no in a state of de facto war (although there has been no actual war dec so empire is off limits). Be very careful around Catch.
Defences
POS 1 & 3 (W9-DID) - only about 12 hrs stront in these, and no reserves. Towers at approx 5 days fuel and enough fuel in the hangars to keep both towers going for approx 5 days more.
POS 2 (GMLH) - 24 hrs stront, no reserve. 6 days fuel in tower, plenty of ice fuels but no NPC fuels in hangar.
POS 4 & 5 (ZX) - 61 hrs stront, approx 6 hrs in reserve at each tower. No fuel in hangars but plenty in Tycho.
Biggest issue is the lack of stront reserves. We need to poke whoever it was took our 14k and see if they have some replacement shipped down yet so we can get it back.
We could also use some Ospreys fitted with remote shield reppers and cap mods for shield squirting. Not sure we have an osprey bpc though?
The rest of the building should go into offensive frigs and cruisers with all the mods needed to fit them. We can use them ourselves and still profit from selling to ISS.
Things to do if you get a quiet moment during the day:
1. Bump POS 1, 2, 3 up to 60 hrs stront.
2. Stock approx 4800 stront in each POS hangar.
3. Refuel the towers (POS 4 & 5 as a priority) and stock 3 days of fuel in the hangars.
4. Jump some more Helium Iso's down from Empire (got about 6 days left)
5. Offline the reactors at POS 4 & 5 and online the extra hardeners. If it looks like a protacted siege we'll unanchor them and really deathstar POS's.
If the POS's come under attack, and if we can, we'll need to tweak the stront levels so they come out of reinforced when it suits us best.
Have fun!
Defences
POS 1 & 3 (W9-DID) - only about 12 hrs stront in these, and no reserves. Towers at approx 5 days fuel and enough fuel in the hangars to keep both towers going for approx 5 days more.
POS 2 (GMLH) - 24 hrs stront, no reserve. 6 days fuel in tower, plenty of ice fuels but no NPC fuels in hangar.
POS 4 & 5 (ZX) - 61 hrs stront, approx 6 hrs in reserve at each tower. No fuel in hangars but plenty in Tycho.
Biggest issue is the lack of stront reserves. We need to poke whoever it was took our 14k and see if they have some replacement shipped down yet so we can get it back.
We could also use some Ospreys fitted with remote shield reppers and cap mods for shield squirting. Not sure we have an osprey bpc though?
The rest of the building should go into offensive frigs and cruisers with all the mods needed to fit them. We can use them ourselves and still profit from selling to ISS.
Things to do if you get a quiet moment during the day:
1. Bump POS 1, 2, 3 up to 60 hrs stront.
2. Stock approx 4800 stront in each POS hangar.
3. Refuel the towers (POS 4 & 5 as a priority) and stock 3 days of fuel in the hangars.
4. Jump some more Helium Iso's down from Empire (got about 6 days left)
5. Offline the reactors at POS 4 & 5 and online the extra hardeners. If it looks like a protacted siege we'll unanchor them and really deathstar POS's.
If the POS's come under attack, and if we can, we'll need to tweak the stront levels so they come out of reinforced when it suits us best.
Have fun!
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northwesten
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alt corp can help in empire but i hope my isk will be useful for u guys!friznit wrote:For those of you who don't know yet, IAC have officially set ISS to -10. We are no in a state of de facto war (although there has been no actual war dec so empire is off limits). Be very careful around Catch.
Defences
POS 1 & 3 (W9-DID) - only about 12 hrs stront in these, and no reserves. Towers at approx 5 days fuel and enough fuel in the hangars to keep both towers going for approx 5 days more.
POS 2 (GMLH) - 24 hrs stront, no reserve. 6 days fuel in tower, plenty of ice fuels but no NPC fuels in hangar.
POS 4 & 5 (ZX) - 61 hrs stront, approx 6 hrs in reserve at each tower. No fuel in hangars but plenty in Tycho.
Biggest issue is the lack of stront reserves. We need to poke whoever it was took our 14k and see if they have some replacement shipped down yet so we can get it back.
We could also use some Ospreys fitted with remote shield reppers and cap mods for shield squirting. Not sure we have an osprey bpc though?
The rest of the building should go into offensive frigs and cruisers with all the mods needed to fit them. We can use them ourselves and still profit from selling to ISS.
Things to do if you get a quiet moment during the day:
1. Bump POS 1, 2, 3 up to 60 hrs stront.
2. Stock approx 4800 stront in each POS hangar.
3. Refuel the towers (POS 4 & 5 as a priority) and stock 3 days of fuel in the hangars.
4. Jump some more Helium Iso's down from Empire (got about 6 days left)
5. Offline the reactors at POS 4 & 5 and online the extra hardeners. If it looks like a protacted siege we'll unanchor them and really deathstar POS's.
If the POS's come under attack, and if we can, we'll need to tweak the stront levels so they come out of reinforced when it suits us best.
Have fun!
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Osprey BPCs
I have 15+ Osprey runs in Tycho. I'll start a few jobs with the mats we have in the corp hanger.
**Edit**: Or not.. i don't have the rights. Per chance can that be remedy'd?
I've got a ton of BP's for everything from frigs to BC's to about 500 BS's in Tycho. I'll make things as we need em, but I need access :p
Thanks
**Edit**: Or not.. i don't have the rights. Per chance can that be remedy'd?
I've got a ton of BP's for everything from frigs to BC's to about 500 BS's in Tycho. I'll make things as we need em, but I need access :p
Thanks
Goons have declared war on ISS so Empire has become rather dangerous, espcially because the Rens area is used to enter GW and the 0.0 area Goons are operating in against LV/-V-.
I'm boned at the moment lol, my geddon's in marginis logged out, need to get to tycho to refit it for fleet
Oh and the important thing, this is gonna be lots of fun
I'm boned at the moment lol, my geddon's in marginis logged out, need to get to tycho to refit it for fleet
Oh and the important thing, this is gonna be lots of fun
I'm stuck in Khank on a clone timer at the moment, but when that releases me to ZX I will be available all day, so hopefully I can sort a lot of the logistics out outside of IAC blob times.
I will also chase up the Stront however I wouldn't hold my breath. I do have an evemail from Stythm (something like that) confirming the loan if it is ever needed.
This could be excellent fun. Trust me to be sodding well stuck in sodding khank with a sodding 100 mil+ in implants with about sodding 18 hours to go until I can clone jump.... and then I am up near sodding Agil somewhere... grrrr....
I will also chase up the Stront however I wouldn't hold my breath. I do have an evemail from Stythm (something like that) confirming the loan if it is ever needed.
This could be excellent fun. Trust me to be sodding well stuck in sodding khank with a sodding 100 mil+ in implants with about sodding 18 hours to go until I can clone jump.... and then I am up near sodding Agil somewhere... grrrr....
Well after tonight's/this morning's battle I'm down one Megathron and am absolutely buggerrered. Good fight - was fun. Was doing OK in my Domi until people started taking notice of my uber-nossing skills but managed to warp to Tycho with half arnour. Broke out the 'thron and got called primary as soon as I came out of warp. Blown up and podded before I could blink.
Absolutely brilliant though - best day in Eve yet
Absolutely brilliant though - best day in Eve yet
The major issue we're going to face throughout this is isk generation to keep us in the fight. Nearly all the corp isk is generated out of Tycho (either the POS's or 5punkships). While IAC camp the system this could make refuelling and resupply a little awkward. And now with Goons operating in empire as well, we're gonna struggle to make isk there.
The corp wallet is not in a position to help much either - it may look fat, but 500mill is a loan from me, and 300mill is from player donations. We do have a goodly amount of materials to sell though (if we can get them out).
W9 may still be viable ratting grounds, just, but if IAC start running the pipes regularly this too could become a little hazardous. Then again, a 5punkfleet/R-E bubble camp there could be amusing.
The corp wallet is not in a position to help much either - it may look fat, but 500mill is a loan from me, and 300mill is from player donations. We do have a goodly amount of materials to sell though (if we can get them out).
W9 may still be viable ratting grounds, just, but if IAC start running the pipes regularly this too could become a little hazardous. Then again, a 5punkfleet/R-E bubble camp there could be amusing.
No point setting a camp up unless IAC start going up and down thereamblin wrote:
Hehe... Tuesday?
There's an alliance mail from Count that says at the moment he wants Guerilla style warfare as our fleets aren't in place and we don't want to take heavy BS losses early on. 5punkfleet/Kamikase Carebear squads anyone?
A gang of IAC ran up that pipe almost immediately after hostilities were declared. Kamikaze Carebear death squad definitely!eRabbit wrote:
No point setting a camp up unless IAC start going up and down there
There's an alliance mail from Count that says at the moment he wants Guerilla style warfare as our fleets aren't in place and we don't want to take heavy BS losses early on. 5punkfleet/Kamikase Carebear squads anyone?
Gonna have to work out logistics very carefully though to keep us all in the money and supplied with ships and mods. This may be a time for Fw4ppers to stand up and show what they're made of.
