Torrent of 5punk

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » September 25th, 2006, 14:27

spoodie wrote:I havent had any problems with leechers, yet, and my torrents are DHT'd to allow access from the other hamachi networks. I imagine you've already discussed it but I'll suggest using a VPN anyway, doable?

VPN does have potential, but possibly an utter cupcake to set up.

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » September 25th, 2006, 14:29

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:VPN does have potential, but possibly an utter cupcake to set up.

Yeah probably, not tried it myself but I'm guessing it's not going to be nice and simple like Hamachi.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » September 25th, 2006, 14:34

spoodie wrote:Yeah probably, not tried it myself but I'm guessing it's not going to be nice and simple like Hamachi.

exactly.

the things that springs to mind are:

Very locked down tracker (with no hamachi)
Proper VPN (potentially very difficult)
Some way of cross-talk between hamchi networks, but more secure (either working out the DHT better, or finding a way to block unknown clients)

Fear · Post by **Fear** » September 25th, 2006, 16:01

Problem is with a vpn is that all traffic would pass through a central point.

The hamanchi is basically lots of 1-to-1 encrypted tunnels over UDP from what I can understand.

You may be able to join more than one hamanchi networks together but again this 'router' will be carrying all the traffic going between the two networks.

The best thing I can thing of is having the tracker so that you have to enter a username and password into the query string - and a quick edit and recompile of the tracker software to read the username and password from the "What's on the table..." website. Alternatively you might have to 'touch' a webpage (or something) and auth yourself, then this gives you 10 minutes to access the tracker.

Edit: Another idea is hostname based auth.

For example each person wishing to use the network is to set up a dynamic dns connection (and tell the prof what it is). The tracker software then reads your ip, compares it with the resolved dynamic dns hostnames and allows/denys access accordingly. The ip/hostname could be an option on the website. People would then need to install a dynamic dns updater (a lot of routers do this already) and they should in theory have access with no visible authentication, and no slow encrypted hamanchi crap.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » September 25th, 2006, 16:16

Fear wrote:Stuff

go on then, get on with it

Fred Woogle · Post by **Fred Woogle** » September 25th, 2006, 16:26

think the guys at oink would let us borrow there tracker

Woo Elephant Yeah

You do realise we could go the other route and just get a Direct Connect server up and running and use DC++

Direct Connect servers do not host anything, they just alow you to connect and share files with one another.

The only reason I didn't do this about a year or so ago is that I totally failed at trying to set one up, plus my up speed wouldn't of been sufficient.

This way everyone would just share what they want to share, connect, and stay connected.

You can then use the utility prof made for requests/offers and so on, but basically it would take all the headache out of using bit torrent.

Don't get me wrong I think this torrent of 5punk thing is an absolutely fantastic idea, however I thought I'd mention that there are other secure (and I think legal) ways of doing the same thing other than bit torrent.

Post by **ProfHawking** » September 25th, 2006, 16:58

Ive used direct connect before, and found it to be a bit shit

I'd rather get bittorrent working if poss, and use DC as a backup plan.

We'll have to work on this one

Woo Elephant Yeah

Sounds like a good idea to me.

Direct Connect in itself is a good idea, the thing that's shit, is the direct connect gui/interface.

That's why some nice chaps made DC++ which is a lightweight non adaware gui for direct connect, and is a piece of piss to use.

Hopefully we can get around the bittorrent issue, but failing that, the direct connect method would simply mean for users to install the client, enter an ip address, type /reg username password, and for an admin to grant them access.

I think you can even go so far as to create the accounts yourself, so there is no way anyone can get in without the account info.

I'll look into it more if we have to resort to plan B

Post by **FatherJack** » September 26th, 2006, 11:49

I hope we don't have to, this method is much cleaner and seems more efficient.

I never really got on that well with DC. Aside from the ridiculous demands made by most hubs for the amount you were sharing, it always seemed to rape my PC.

We could possibly get around the first problem with a private hub with relaxed limits and passwording/IP restriction, but bittorrent just seems to have a lot less of an impact on the PC when it's running.

I also like the neatness of having a requests/seeds board, rather than just sharing you whole disk and letting people search/get lost in it, you are in effect publishing the stuff you want to share and have lovingly prepared, rather than some random crap you didn't even know you had on your disk.

There's an interesting side-by-side comparison of the two methods here.

Post by **ProfHawking** » September 26th, 2006, 15:05

WFHFHT good job there dude. not even with the tinyurl or anything

Woo Elephant Yeah

ProfHawking wrote:WFHFHT good job there dude. not even with the tinyurl or anything

The bastard got me to

Post by **Roman Totale** » September 26th, 2006, 17:37

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Post by **ProfHawking** » September 26th, 2006, 17:40

UPDATE

You now have the ability to post comments on offered items on the 5punkList.

Let me know if you hit any probs.

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » September 26th, 2006, 18:11

ProfHawking wrote:Let me know if you hit any probs.

I can't seem to get a girlfriend.

Post by **Roman Totale** » September 26th, 2006, 18:21

Hehulk wrote:
I can't seem to get a girlfriend.

Well hit something else instead.

Post by **ProfHawking** » September 26th, 2006, 18:48

Hehulk wrote:
I can't seem to get a girlfriend.

Ill put it in the post tomorrow. Make sure you give it a good hose down.

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » September 26th, 2006, 19:04

ProfHawking wrote:
Ill put it in the post tomorrow. Make sure you give it a good hose down.

much appriciated

Fred Woogle · Post by **Fred Woogle** » September 28th, 2006, 3:52

Just to let you know, SMG isn't in a random, he's Seb, has made a few visits here, ZXEU & TheEgg. He is also my best friend who I am incouraging to play PC games instead of Xbox, as he is moving back to Brighton soon, he will have no choice in the matter

cashy · Post by **cashy** » September 28th, 2006, 14:36

is anybody else having problems with the main torrent site? i havnt been able to load it for days now