Routers and the DMZ

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » August 1st, 2008, 23:56

Right, trying this again, hopefully with less fail on my part.

I'm trying to figure out how to put my tompson speedtouch 585 v6 router into it's DMZ, but since all the config screens in the router read like greek to me, I'm stuck pretty firmly at square one for how to do it.

Welp?

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » August 2nd, 2008, 0:03

For a start, why do you want to be in the DMZ? it's generally not needed, and you lose all the security a router provides you.

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » August 2nd, 2008, 0:07

Always had issues with some RTS games connecting to other people online, couldn't log into my old router, but new(ish) router so I figured I'd try again.

That said, might be a waste of time anyway, I think I just opened up the ports for soup so I'm gona try again now.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » August 2nd, 2008, 0:10

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-re ... 25242.html

looks like DMZ doesn't really work/exist on that router anyway.

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » August 2nd, 2008, 0:18

Nope, doesn't help, and bugger

Stoat · Post by **Stoat** » August 2nd, 2008, 0:29

Have you already tried port forwarding?

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » August 2nd, 2008, 0:41

Tried setting it up, but apparently I've done something wrong because the ports arn't open.

Did some digging on the GPG site though and found this which seems to put my router into it's dmz. That's not really working overly well though, all the games I've connected to I'm seeing people with nil pings

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » August 2nd, 2008, 0:43

remember to use a good software firewall, and have it installed and set up *BEFORE* you stick yourself in the DMZ.

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » August 2nd, 2008, 0:43

I set one up as habbit when I install windows. Sygate personal firewall pass your recomendations?

Post by **FatherJack** » August 2nd, 2008, 1:05

The windows one is sufficient for the difference being in the DMZ makes, as it blocks most incoming by default. Fancier ones are really only necessary for precise application control.

The main difference of being in the DMZ is that your PC now actively has to block all the shit your router used to handle itself, so performance may be slightly degraded and you're open to DoS-style attacks which target your OS, which your router will have been immune to.

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » August 2nd, 2008, 10:40

OK, fucking about with port forwarding instead (Because I like paranoia) I've got the following input boxes.

Protocal - It's a drop down box with the options of any, UDP or TCP.
Port Ranges - 2 blank text fields
Translate To.. - 1 blank text field, 5 characters max
Trigger Protocal - same as protocal
Trigger Port - same as translate to

Now, I've set-up what ports supreme commander says it needs open. I've also run a 3rd party program to double check the ports, and it's saying they're closed and that I need to enable UPnP but the router says that is enabled. I've left the trigger protocal and trigger ports fields empty.

Since a picture is worth a thousand words, this is a screenshot of how my screen looks atm. Is there anything there I should go back and change?

Post by **HereComesPete** » August 2nd, 2008, 11:01

Turn uPnP off and on again on both your pc and the router, then unplug everything router related for a bit, then plug it all back in. That nearly always works.

Post by **Roman Totale** » August 2nd, 2008, 11:07

U Torrent has a very good guide for port forwarding. I was able to do it, and if I can, anyone can.

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » August 2nd, 2008, 12:35

You could simplify it by having one line having a port range of 30340 to 30351, reducing 4 lines to 1.

Test with this?: http://www.canyouseeme.org/

Killavodka · Post by **Killavodka** » August 2nd, 2008, 14:42

http://www.portforward.com/english/rout ... rindex.htm has a nice list of routers and how-to's.