Spec me an ISP, bitches!

Post by **ProfHawking** » December 10th, 2007, 23:20

They are not.*

*educated guess

Post by **tandino** » December 10th, 2007, 23:25

<a href="http://www.ispreview.co.uk/review/censu ... 5">Here</a> says that Eclipse should be steered clear of, averaging 4.5 - 5 out of 10...

Ho hum, the search continues.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » December 11th, 2007, 7:16

Eclipse are crap, used them ages ago.

Why only a few choices of adsl provider? if you have a phone you should be able to choose someone good. Unless you want adsl2+ anyway, then that relies on them being parked in your exchange.

Post by **Dog Pants** » December 11th, 2007, 9:16

After my interesting adventures with BT, I also am looking for a new ISP. I was thinking Sky though because I like their telly. Anyone have opinions on that?

Post by **fabyak** » December 11th, 2007, 10:28

I've been with Demon for about 6 years and I don't recall ever having a problem with them. Only time we ran into difficulties it was because of BT making a fuckup on the line

The rare occaisions (2 I think) I have needed to call their tech people they have known what they are doing, not just reading from a sheet

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » March 4th, 2008, 15:37

Thread revival time!

Virgin have slowly been creeping our internet bill up over the last few years, and it's now at a point where I'm under orders to find something better/cheaper. According to SamKnows, I can get the follow from the local exchange

BT Wholesale ADSL
BT Wholesale ADSL Max
AOL LLU
O2 / Be LLU
Bulldog LLU
TalkTalk (CPW) LLU
Sky Broadband / Easynet LLU
Tiscali LLU
Orange LLU (Formerly Wanadoo)
Virgin Media (Cable)

Now, BT I want to avoid like the plague, same with AOL and Tiscali. We're looking to leave Virgin so that's them out. Out of the remaining, which would you guys recomend? Personially, I'm thinking Bulldog

Post by **fabyak** » March 4th, 2008, 16:10

Demon run over BT lines so if you can get BT you can probably get them, and seeing as I have only known NTL (£6 a month unlimitied (!) dial up) and Demon, I recommend Demon

buzzmong · Post by **buzzmong** » March 4th, 2008, 16:15

I'd look into Bulldog, I heard a rumour they install and operate their own hardware in the phone exchanges, which is meant to be better than BT's own ASDL equipment.

MrGreen · Post by **MrGreen** » March 4th, 2008, 18:35

Hehulk wrote:Thread revival time!

Virgin have slowly been creeping our internet bill up over the last few years, and it's now at a point where I'm under orders to find something better/cheaper. According to SamKnows, I can get the follow from the local exchange

BT Wholesale ADSL
BT Wholesale ADSL Max
AOL LLU
O2 / Be LLU
Bulldog LLU
TalkTalk (CPW) LLU
Sky Broadband / Easynet LLU
Tiscali LLU
Orange LLU (Formerly Wanadoo)
Virgin Media (Cable)

Now, BT I want to avoid like the plague, same with AOL and Tiscali. We're looking to leave Virgin so that's them out. Out of the remaining, which would you guys recomend? Personially, I'm thinking Bulldog

Be. Hands down.

cheeseandham · Post by **cheeseandham** » March 4th, 2008, 20:45

MrGreen wrote:
Be. Hands down.

From my time in the trenches.
Avoid Virgin ADSL, AOL, TalkTalk, Tiscali and Orange.

Virgin ADSL - speed problems prevalent.
AOL - nuff said.
TalkTalk,Tiscali and Orange - "Bucket" ADSL aimed at people that just use it to browse the web and use either their email address or a web based service. All three have been known to block ports.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 5th, 2008, 2:56

I've heard mostly not great things about bulldog (but that was a while ago, so i dunno)

I'd suggest Be. if you can put up with the occasional service interuptions.

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » March 5th, 2008, 11:06

How occasional? And in what sort of time periods?

cheeseandham · Post by **cheeseandham** » March 5th, 2008, 22:18

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:I've heard mostly not great things about bulldog (but that was a while ago, so i dunno)

All of that, quite hard. Don't know what they are like now either.
It was bad enough that the guys next door moved from them and onto BT, at great expense (bringing an LLU line back to BT ain't cheap)

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 5th, 2008, 22:26

Hehulk wrote:How occasional? And in what sort of time periods?

Depends on stuff (like, if they need to do stuff involving your exchange)

Probably once a month on average.

and always wedged in between 1 and 7am (mostly 3-6am)

TheJockGit · Post by **TheJockGit** » March 5th, 2008, 22:30

Oh dear... BT and all affiliates are starting to look not so inviting...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/05/bt_phorm_trial/

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 5th, 2008, 22:32

TheJockGit wrote:Oh dear... BT and all affiliates are starting to look not so inviting...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/05/bt_phorm_trial/

is remarkably shit.

Chickenz · Post by **Chickenz** » March 5th, 2008, 22:37

buzzmong wrote:I'd look into Bulldog, I heard a rumour they install and operate their own hardware in the phone exchanges, which is meant to be better than BT's own ASDL equipment.

Apparently they are now owned/operated by Tiscali, so I'd avoid like the plague.

Post by **Dog Pants** » March 5th, 2008, 22:48

TheJockGit wrote:Oh dear... BT and all affiliates are starting to look not so inviting...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/05/bt_phorm_trial/

Will my options include "Fuck off, like you told me to fuck off when I went for four months without Broadband, you faceless corporate bastards"?

I hope so.

TheJockGit · Post by **TheJockGit** » March 5th, 2008, 22:54

Dog Pants wrote:
Will my options include "Fuck off, like you told me to fuck off when I went for four months without Broadband, you faceless corporate bastards"?

I hope so.

This ... HARD!!

cheeseandham · Post by **cheeseandham** » March 5th, 2008, 23:02

I'll say it once again:-
http://aaisp.net.uk

The owner is a huge geek.
They know what they're doing
They don't oversubscribe their lines
IRC + Phone directly to good engineers
Unlimited bandwidth outside of 9-5 weekdays.
Static IP as standard, if you want a block of IP's it's free.
No port blocking, no faffing, and I guarantee they will never go for this Phorm shit
More expensive, but worth the money

I'm not saying this again, you fuckers...