Bethere Broadband

Post by **Dog Pants** » February 21st, 2008, 12:16

tandino wrote:Overall for 3 sky packages, home phone and broadband I pay 26 squids a month.

I've been considering this, especially since BT are cocks of the highest order and are now putting up their non-free calls by about 90% (that's what the adverts don't tell you).

friznit · Post by **friznit** » February 21st, 2008, 14:35

I'm about to move into a new place (again), though this should be the last move for at least 2 years which means I'll be able to do all sorts of things that I've never done before that involve annual conracts, like Sky TV and proper internets.

I'm currently considering the easy option of a straight forward Sky all in one package, but this Bethere thing has me interested...the thought of very fast, truly unlimited internets is mighty appealing. How long will it stay like that until they get overloaded with permapr0ndownloadz and throttle it to 1 litre a month?

amblin · Post by **amblin** » February 21st, 2008, 14:52

Wiggy · Post by **Wiggy** » February 21st, 2008, 14:59

amblin wrote:In londski, I think cheeseandhams favourite isp have presence, might be worth asking him about them...

I was actually looking at them the other day, but they appear to have put their prices up to discourage new customers until they have their new Gigabit pipe from BT put in (approx end of April). Then again, they'll be able to provide up to 24 mbps when it's done.

www.aaisp.co.uk

Post by **Dog Pants** » February 23rd, 2008, 17:26

Dog Pants wrote:
I've been considering this, especially since BT are cocks of the highest order and are now putting up their non-free calls by about 90% (that's what the adverts don't tell you).

I've started looking into this, but I'm a little confused. I'm looking at the £19 package because I can't get an 8mb connection, and I'm happy with only four packages. I'm also going to get the Sky+ box. But...

When I go through the order process, I add the broadband and it costs me an extra £17 a month. What's all that about, I thought the £19 package provided that? Also, that £19 doesn't include line rental does it?

While I'm asking, regarding the HD box. How is that recieved? I'm not really planning on getting one yet, but with no access to cable and a less than brilliant signal could I get HD channels? Are there even many HD channels about?

It's all very confusing to me, but I really want to ditch BT and the Sky packages seem quite good.

Post by **FatherJack** » February 23rd, 2008, 22:00

Dog Pants wrote:While I'm asking, regarding the HD box. How is that recieved? I'm not really planning on getting one yet, but with no access to cable and a less than brilliant signal could I get HD channels? Are there even many HD channels about?

It's all very confusing to me, but I really want to ditch BT and the Sky packages seem quite good.

The Sky HD content is all delivered through the satellite dish - why don't you have a good signal? Are you somehow further away from the satellite than the rest of the planet, or are there lots of tall buildings around you?

The HD box is also a Sky+ box, so it might not be worth paying for Sky+ if you plan to get the HD one soon-ish. There aren't many HD channels at all - BBC HD (which only transmits 4 hours a day), an ITV one due next month I think, the C4 one and the Sky Sports/Movies ones. There should be more in the future, though - there's already a fair bit on the on-demand services.

I think Sky's on-demand content is delivered through your internet connection to your PC, like BBC IPlayer and Channel Four's one, AFAIK, cable is the only way to get on-demand stuff direct to your TV.

Post by **Dog Pants** » February 23rd, 2008, 22:40

Thanks for that, I'm not really up to speed on TV technology. The signal thing relates to digital through my aerial, which is how I assumed Sky was recieved now. I'm not too bothered by having to pay an extra £100 for the HD box, but if it's going to be years before I can watch any channels I want to see then I might as well wait until the prices have come down a bit. I'm not really that bothered about HD. I still don't understand their pricing though.

Lee · Post by **Lee** » April 16th, 2008, 21:00

I've just discovered the wonders of fast path and a 3db SNR profile, I'm now getting 23mbps down speed and 1.4mbps up speed which is quite a nice increase from 18mbps down and 1.3mbps up

TheJockGit · Post by **TheJockGit** » April 16th, 2008, 21:48

Lee wrote:I've just discovered the wonders of fast path and a 3db SNR profile, I'm now getting 23mbps down speed and 1.4mbps up speed which is quite a nice increase from 18mbps down and 1.3mbps up

Could you expand on this? I just had a quick Google and it looks interesting.

Lee · Post by **Lee** » April 16th, 2008, 22:00

TheJockGit wrote:
Could you expand on this? I just had a quick Google and it looks interesting.

There's two types of ADSL2+ as far as I know, interleaved and fast path, interleaved has error correction, fast path doesn't and so is faster. Everyone is set to interleaved by default for the best reliability.

From what I understand, the SNR profile is the amount of frequencies your router ignores in order to reduce errors, reducing that value gives your router more frequencies to work with and increases speed. It's usually set to 6db by default.

So asking your ISP to switch your connection to fast path with a 3db SNR profile can potentially increase your interweb speeds but you won't get any more speed than you're actually paying for. It also depends on whether your ISP treats it's customers like idiots or not as to whether they'll do this for you. Be are nice people fortunately and will have it done for you within a few hours of sending them a ticket.

There's a chance that your interwebs will become less reliable but mine has been fine since I switched earlier today, it's easy to switch back if you do have problems though.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » April 16th, 2008, 22:12

http://www.beforum.co.uk/

probably has good info