Dr. kitteny berk wrote:That'll be the ATI, probably couldn't even render the ads.
I never had a problem with the billboards either - I barely even noticed them. I didn;t play it until the released version though. Wonder if that's why I like it so much more than most of you.
I played the beta and I like the final game, so that's that theory out of the window. I was going to suggest that only whining little bitches don't like it but KV likes the game so that theory doesn't work either.
At the risk of getting into the BEEF vs Futurebeef argument...
I think the reason some prefer one over the other is that BEEF is move vehicle dominated, whereas 2142 is more infantry orientated. After playing 2142 I find it hard to go back to BEEF's tank/heli whoring and I get the rage. I suspect most people find the lack of powerful vehicles in 2142 frustrating as they're molested by AT infantry (like me) when they're not on foot. I'm also led to believe that veteran BEEF snipers hate the point-and-click 2142 sniper rifles. I prefer them ('cos I'm a noob).
Dog Pants wrote:At the risk of getting into the BEEF vs Futurebeef argument...
I think the reason some prefer one over the other is that BEEF is move vehicle dominated, whereas 2142 is more infantry orientated. After playing 2142 I find it hard to go back to BEEF's tank/heli whoring and I get the rage. I suspect most people find the lack of powerful vehicles in 2142 frustrating as they're molested by AT infantry (like me) when they're not on foot. I'm also led to believe that veteran BEEF snipers hate the point-and-click 2142 sniper rifles. I prefer them ('cos I'm a noob).
I've done quite a bit of sniping in 2142, and in my opinion sniping was very much easier in BF2. Unless you use up an unlock spot to get the stabilizer thing you have to contend with the sway which did not exist at all in BF2, and the accuracy is roughly the same in both games.
The difference in the vehicle combat is that they made the weak spots in 2142 actually weak. Hitting the rear of a tank with the Pilum H-AVR is basically an instakill. While this makes infantry much better at killing vehicles, it also make the vehicles seem almost worthless. I liked the vehicle vs. vehicle combat in BF2, but I think they didn't really get infantry vs. vehicle combat right in either one.
deject wrote:While this makes infantry much better at killing vehicles, it also make the vehicles seem almost worthless. I liked the vehicle vs. vehicle combat in BF2, but I think they didn't really get infantry vs. vehicle combat right in either one.
The problem I had with 2142 is that the maps were generally much bigger, needing vehicles to get around, but they were useless against a competent enemy, that and the retards who ran off in an empty transport...
Well, the Walkers can take some punishment, even from infantry, but it's not very fast and it's powerless against anything armored at range. The tanks are best used from far far away as up close it's not maneuverable to hit moving enemies that well and lets infantry get behind you for the kill.
I think one of my bigger problems is that none of the vehicles really can be very dominant in the hands of a skilled pilot. In BF2, you can massacre people all over with the tank, but you're not going to stand up to a concentrated effort. In 2142 it is just too difficult to deal with infantry on your own. If they would have combined the two I think it'd be better.
And for fucks sake why did they make the machine guns on the cars completely useless against the gunships? Yeah you can use the infantry AA gun, except it's fucking useless and you can't do shit about the tank that's in front of you. Oh yeah and its range is like 3 meters. Being able to damage the helicopters from the cars was a very useful counter to the heli rape, and it was fairly well balanced considering how easy it is to blow cars up.
If there was something other than just shooting at people in CoD it would be perfect for me. I want support classes, vehicles, toys. Noob toobing only goes so far.
Shinies would be rather win. I enjoyed bombing around as the third member of a ro-bo wagon, trying to jump 'singers tank far more than actually shooting ragheads, think that as the last time I beefed.
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And just since someone mentioned the snipers in future beef, I don't like them at all. They feel like they shoot little pillows at people rather than bullets. I don't know, maybe something about the sounds or something makes it seem dulled some how, despite them not necessarily being any less powerful than the snipers in BF2.
In fact, I think 2142 in general feels too... "soft" compared to BF2, which I think just feels more gritty.
I didn't have a big problem with the billboards in 2142 though, some maps had a few too many for my liking, but mostly they weren't as bad as I was expecting them to be.
At least the billboards were "camouflaged" of sorts. It wasn't shouting CORE2DUO in bright red or similar. Also I liked both beef + futar, for different reasons and hated them both for similar bugs, which you would think they would iron out in a sequal
