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Real Life DirectX 10 Performance

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 7:00
by News Reader
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AnandTech has a look at the performance PC gamers can expect see under Windows Fista with DirectX 10. Unfortunately, it isn't pretty. Despite the power of the new 10-compliant graphics cards, the choices made in developing this technology have resulted in a significant gap between what is possible and what is actually obtainable from commercial PC hardware. What's worse, the article starts off by pointing out that much of the shiny effects exclusive to DX10 games would have been possible with DX9, had Microsoft been inclined to develop in that direction. From the article: "[Current] cards are just not powerful enough to enable widespread use of any features that reach beyond the capability of DirectX 9. Even our high-end hardware struggled to keep up in some cases, and the highest resolution we tested was 2.3 megapixels. Pushing the resolution up to 4 MP (with 30" display resolutions of 2560x1600) brings all of our cards to their knees. In short, we really need to see faster hardware before developers can start doing more impressive things with DirectX 10."

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Posted: July 9th, 2007, 8:18
by FatherJack
A 30" display with 2560x1600? What is the point of that?

Either you sit so close you can't see it all, or so far away you don't notice the higher resoultion.

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 8:31
by eion
FatherJack wrote:A 30" display with 2560x1600? What is the point of that?
So you're saying you don't want one? ;)

Also, a display like that would be awesome for Photoshop.

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 8:42
by FatherJack
eion wrote:So you're saying you don't want one? ;)

Also, a display like that would be awesome for Photoshop.
I can't think of a situation where I could have it at a distance to be able to comfortably view it all without getting neck-ache, yet be close enough to benefit from the resolution.

It's be okay if I was concentrating on one area at a time, but I can do that with two screens more comfortably, and way more cheaply.

My current res is umm, 2960x1050-ish across whatever a 19" 4:3 and a 22" 16:10 add up to - but I only look at one screen at a time and still have to use my ocular zoom function sometimes.

I suppose if a game was programmed so that the edges of the screen were more like peripheral vision, it could work.

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 8:48
by eion
FatherJack wrote:It's be okay if I was concentrating on one area at a time, but I can do that with two screens more comfortably, and way more cheaply.
I love multimonitor, but it's no substitute for having a really nice high-resolution screen IMO (far cheaper, though).

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 8:53
by Dr. kitteny berk
I'm quite happy with a smallish (20") screen quite close (and another next to it)

Any bigger would be overwhelming up close, and difficult to see (without my glasses on) further back.

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 12:12
by Woo Elephant Yeah
I find my Dell 24" Widescreen monitor at 1920 x 1200 seems to be perfect, as I can tile windows vertically and thus have a "kind of" multiple monitor for working on 2 things at once, and the screen size is still small enough to sit about the same distance as a regular 17"/19" TFT.

Any bigger than a 24" widescreen, and I'd have to sit a lot further back, and it just wouldn't work very well.

Mr Bobbins has one of these as well, and I'd imagine he would say the same.

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 12:19
by Lateralus
Either your resolution is 1200x1920, or you like very wide and thin windows, or you tile the windows horizontally.

Just because I'm grumpy doesn't mean I can't be pedantic. :)

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 12:23
by Woo Elephant Yeah
erm, nope, it's 1920x1200 and I tile the windows vertically :?

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 12:32
by Lateralus
How many windows are you tiling at a time? :?

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 12:35
by FatherJack
Vertical tiling in Windows terms means they are side-by side.

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 12:35
by mrbobbins
Woo Elephant Yeah wrote:erm, nope, it's 1920x1200 and I tile the windows vertically :?
:above: He's right.

Pedant fail.

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 12:36
by Lateralus
But....that....doesn't....make....any....sense.

My brain just quit.

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 12:37
by Woo Elephant Yeah
2 windows at a time.

You then get 2 nicely proportioned windows in portrait mode alongside each other, kind of like when you see those flatscreens that rotate 90 degrees.

Basically if you tile 2 windows vertically on a 4x3 monitor, they are too narrow to do anything useful with, but on a large widescreen (at 1920x1200) you get 2 windows next to each other at 960 pixels width each.

Does that make sense, or have I just confused you even more :lol:

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 12:38
by Lateralus
Just opened a few IEs and played around so I get it now, but it still seems counter-intuitive to me.

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 12:39
by mrbobbins
Woo Elephant Yeah wrote:Any bigger than a 24" widescreen, and I'd have to sit a lot further back, and it just wouldn't work very well.

Mr Bobbins has one of these as well, and I'd imagine he would say the same.
Yes, Indeed I would, also with added 17" for extra.. screeniness. Most of the time the 24" is enough (TWSS etc.) but with the CRT I can watch TV/video at the same time, also handy for Soups as shown (Desync detected)

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Posted: July 9th, 2007, 12:39
by spoodie
Open Excel
Create two spreadsheets
Select Window -> Arrange -> Vertical

That's what it looks like.

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 12:41
by FatherJack
spoodie wrote:Open Excel
Or right click a clear bit of the taskbar and 'tile Windows H/V'

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 12:48
by Woo Elephant Yeah
I'm amazed how many people I have spoken to here at work (who now have dual screens running through Citrix, so it only treats the 2 screens as one wide display) who have never not once noticed you could tile windows horizontally or vertically.

It's a very useful feature, but has been underused in the past due to the limited 4x3 screen size, whereas widescreen displays have changed all that.

Posted: July 9th, 2007, 12:52
by spoodie
FatherJack wrote:Or right click a clear bit of the taskbar and 'tile Windows H/V'
Yeah, or that. Having never used the feature in Windows itself that's not what I thought of first. As WEY explains.