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steam cockup
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 16:37
by thewombleofdeath
right, again i have a problem with steam
for some reason when i click on the steam icon or any of the games no windows open or the little thing in the status bar thing next to the clock but steam.exe does appear in processes on ctrl+alt+del. i did the obvious thing of ending the process and starting it again but it doesnt want to start at all..its not just a one off thing. so ive uninstalled it and re-installed it and updated the graphics driver but still no luck
any ideas?
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 16:49
by MrGreen
Wrong sub forum.
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 16:54
by eion
MrGreen wrote:Wrong sub forum.
"Questions and reviews on computer hardware, software..."
Seems like a perfectly appropriate sub-forum to me.
Try using
Process Explorer rather than Task Manager - it might give you some extra insight. Beyond that, I don't have any advice I'm afraid.
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 16:57
by MrGreen
Considering the software in question has its own sub-forum, I'd consider it best, but you are still right.
As for help, I'd back up all your content, delete everything steam related and re install.
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 17:31
by thewombleofdeath
eion wrote:
Try using
Process Explorer rather than Task Manager - it might give you some extra insight. Beyond that, I don't have any advice I'm afraid.
tried that but i dont think it gives me any other help or info that i didn't already know. thanks anyway
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 17:38
by eion
Try killing off any other weird stuff that could be causing problems - PeerGuardian stopped Steam from working for me (different failure mode though), but it could be something else that isn't playing fair. Any funny-looking processes?
Also, what have you changed since Steam last worked?
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 17:43
by buzzmong
Tried disabling most things like av's and suchlike?
Also, try killing explorer.exe, and just try running steam via the run box of doom.
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 17:47
by thewombleofdeath
god theres loads of bloody processes running on this thing and i dont know what half of them are.
plus, im not sure whether i rolled back my graphics driver before or after steam went balls up because the newest driver wasnt running games properly. its now on about november 06. other than that i dont think theres much else of huge importance
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 17:50
by thewombleofdeath
buzzmong wrote:Tried disabling most things like av's and suchlike?
Also, try killing explorer.exe, and just try running steam via the run box of doom.
even killing explorer it still doesnt open but remains in processes!
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 17:53
by eion
thewombleofdeath wrote: god theres loads of bloody processes running on this thing and i dont know what half of them are.
To get a list of them in text form, if you're using XP Pro, at the command line type the following:
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WMIC /OUTPUT:C:\Out.txt PROCESS get Caption,Commandline,Processid
and let us know what's in the output text file (C:\Out.txt).
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 17:56
by buzzmong
eion wrote:
To get a list of them in text form, if you're using XP Pro, at the command line type the following:
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WMIC /OUTPUT:C:\Out.txt PROCESS get Caption,Commandline,Processid
and let us know what's in the output text file (C:\Out.txt).
This
I was going to screeny and post my own xp home system processes, and highlight the ones I use that are NOT windows native, so you can get an idea of what should be running.
If you have trouble outputting a list, I shall do so.
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 17:56
by thewombleofdeath
ive just printscreened it but i'll do this if its easier
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 18:01
by thewombleofdeath
right.....
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Caption CommandLine ProcessId
System Idle Process 0
System 4
smss.exe \SystemRoot\System32\smss.exe 724
csrss.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\csrss.exe ObjectDirectory=\Windows SharedSection=1024,3072,512 Windows=On SubSystemType=Windows ServerDll=basesrv,1 ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3 ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2 ProfileControl=Off MaxRequestThreads=16 800
winlogon.exe winlogon.exe 828
services.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe 876
lsass.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe 888
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost -k DcomLaunch 1092
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost -k rpcss 1192
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe -k netsvcs 1304
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k NetworkService 1400
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService 1548
ccSvcHst.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exe" /h ccCommon 1612
AppSvc32.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AppCore\AppSvc32.exe" 1744
symlcsvc.exe "C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\SYMANTEC SHARED\CCPD-LC\SYMLCSVC.EXE" 1948
LEXBCES.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE 344
LEXPPS.EXE LEXPPS.EXE 384
spoolsv.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe 392
AluSchedulerSvc.exe "C:\Program Files\Symantec\LiveUpdate\ALUSchedulerSvc.exe" 1752
guard.exe "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\guard.exe" 1840
ccSvcHst.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exe" /h cltCommon 1852
ehrecvr.exe C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehRecvr.exe 1980
ehSched.exe C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehSched.exe 2040
SAgent2.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\EPSON\EBAPI\SAgent2.exe" 612
mdm.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\mdm.exe" 1480
nvsvc32.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe 1976
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k LocalService 2112
svchost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe -k imgsvc 2144
ULCDRSvr.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\DVD\ULCDRSvr.exe" 2264
USBDeviceService.exe "C:\Program Files\Sonic\DigitalMedia LE v7\MyDVD LE\USBDeviceService.exe" 2396
mcrdsvc.exe C:\WINDOWS\ehome\mcrdsvc.exe 2492
ehtray.exe "C:\WINDOWS\ehome\ehtray.exe" 3740
RTHDCPL.exe "C:\WINDOWS\RTHDCPL.EXE" 3752
jusched.exe "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin\jusched.exe" 3884
DetectorApp.exe "C:\Program Files\Sonic\DigitalMedia LE v7\MyDVD LE\DetectorApp.exe" 3960
rundll32.exe rundll32.exe nview.dll,nViewInitialize 3988
issch.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\UpdateService\issch.exe" -start 4032
ABOARD.EXE "C:\apps\ABoard\ABoard.exe" 744
lxbkbmgr.exe "C:\Program Files\Lexmark X1100 Series\lxbkbmgr.exe" 784
iTouch.exe "C:\Program Files\Logitech\iTouch\iTouch.exe" 852
realsched.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot 376
lxbkbmon.exe "C:\Program Files\Lexmark X1100 Series\lxbkbmon.exe" 2204
ccApp.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe" 2208
iTunesHelper.exe "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe" 2096
EM_EXEC.EXE "C:\Program Files\Logitech\MouseWare\system\em_exec.exe" 2656
avgas.exe "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\avgas.exe" /minimized 4040
dllhost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllhost.exe /Processid:{02D4B3F1-FD88-11D1-960D-00805FC79235} 664
iPodService.exe "C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe" 892
rundll32.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE" C:\WINDOWS\system32\NvMcTray.dll,NvTaskbarInit 3052
alg.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe 1244
Ad-Watch.exe "C:\PROGRA~1\Norman\NORMAN~1\Ad-Watch.exe" 3572
ctfmon.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe" 3620
xfire.exe "C:\Program Files\Xfire\xfire.exe" 2300
E_S10IC2.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\E_S10IC2.EXE /F "C:\DOCUME~1\Chris\LOCALS~1\Temp\E_S3.tmp" 3880
firefox.exe "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" 5260
usnsvc.exe "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\usnsvc.exe" 3816
explorer.exe "C:\WINDOWS\explorer.exe" 2088
wmic.exe "C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem\WMIC.exe" /OUTPUT:C:\Out.txt PROCESS get Caption,Commandline,Processid 4408
wmiprvse.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\wmiprvse.exe
VOILA!
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 18:07
by eion
Not seeing anything immediately untoward there, except for E_S10IC2.EXE (no idea what that is, given that I'm about a minute away from passing out off to bed).
If it's not solved by morning, I'll take a better look at it then.
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 18:08
by Dr. kitteny berk
eion wrote:Not seeing anything immediately untoward there, except for E_S10IC2.EXE (no idea what that is, given that I'm about a minute away from passing out off to bed).
If it's not solved by morning, I'll take a better look at it then.
E_S10IC2.EXE looks like printer related fluff.
Nothing really comes to mind for this issue, launch and nuke?
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 18:39
by buzzmong
And in responce:
Windows critical (leave them alone)
smss.exe
csrss.exe
winlogon.exe
services.exe
lsass.exe
svchost.exe (any of these you cannot kill, system critical)
alg.exe C:\WINDOWS\System32\alg.exe
nvsvc32.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\nvsvc32.exe (nvidia stuffs)
Windows you can kill:
spoolsv.exe
explorer.exe "C:\WINDOWS\explorer.exe" (well, you can, it's only the gui frontend)
wmiprvse.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\wbem\wmiprvse.exe
wmic.exe "C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem\WMIC.exe"
rundll32.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\RUNDLL32.EXE"
dllhost.exe C:\WINDOWS\system32\dllhost.exe
rundll32.exe rundll32.exe nview.dll,nViewInitialize
mdm.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\mdm.exe"
Anything else you can kill:
ccSvcHst.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exe" /h ccCommon
AppSvc32.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\AppCore\AppSvc32.exe"
symlcsvc.exe "C:\PROGRAM FILES\COMMON FILES\SYMANTEC SHARED\CCPD-LC\SYMLCSVC.EXE"
LEXBCES.EXE C:\WINDOWS\system32\LEXBCES.EXE
LEXPPS.EXE
AluSchedulerSvc.exe "C:\Program Files\Symantec\LiveUpdate\ALUSchedulerSvc.exe"
guard.exe "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\guard.exe"
ccSvcHst.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccSvcHst.exe" /h cltCommon
ehrecvr.exe C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehRecvr.exe
ehSched.exe C:\WINDOWS\eHome\ehSched.exe
SAgent2.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\EPSON\EBAPI\SAgent2.exe"
ULCDRSvr.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Ulead Systems\DVD\ULCDRSvr.exe"
USBDeviceService.exe "C:\Program Files\Sonic\DigitalMedia LE v7\MyDVD LE\USBDeviceService.exe"
mcrdsvc.exe C:\WINDOWS\ehome\mcrdsvc.exe
ehtray.exe "C:\WINDOWS\ehome\ehtray.exe"
RTHDCPL.exe "C:\WINDOWS\RTHDCPL.EXE"
jusched.exe "C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.6.0_01\bin\jusched.exe"
DetectorApp.exe "C:\Program Files\Sonic\DigitalMedia LE v7\MyDVD LE\DetectorApp.exe"
issch.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\InstallShield\UpdateService\issch.exe" -start
ABOARD.EXE "C:\apps\ABoard\ABoard.exe"
lxbkbmgr.exe "C:\Program Files\Lexmark X1100 Series\lxbkbmgr.exe"
iTouch.exe "C:\Program Files\Logitech\iTouch\iTouch.exe"
realsched.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
lxbkbmon.exe "C:\Program Files\Lexmark X1100 Series\lxbkbmon.exe"
ccApp.exe "C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ccApp.exe"
iTunesHelper.exe "C:\Program Files\iTunes\iTunesHelper.exe"
EM_EXEC.EXE "C:\Program Files\Logitech\MouseWare\system\em_exec.exe" 2656
avgas.exe "C:\Program Files\Grisoft\AVG Anti-Spyware 7.5\avgas.exe" /minimized
iPodService.exe "C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe"
Ad-Watch.exe "C:\PROGRA~1\Norman\NORMAN~1\Ad-Watch.exe"
ctfmon.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe"
xfire.exe "C:\Program Files\Xfire\xfire.exe"
E_S10IC2.EXE C:\WINDOWS\System32\spool\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\E_S10IC2.EXE /F "C:\DOCUME~1\Chris\LOCALS~1\Temp\E_S3.tmp"
firefox.exe "C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe"
usnsvc.exe "C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\usnsvc.exe"
Of which I'd personally stop (should all be safe to terminate):
LEXBCES.EXE
LEXPPS.EXE
AluSchedulerSvc.exe
ehrecvr.exe
ehSched.exe
SAgent2.exe
ULCDRSvr.exe
USBDeviceService.exe
mcrdsvc.exe
ehtray.exe
RTHDCPL.exe
jusched.exe
DetectorApp.exe
issch.exe
ABOARD.EXE
lxbkbmgr.exe
iTouch.exe
realsched.exe
lxbkbmon.exe
iTunesHelper.exe
EM_EXEC.EXE
iPodService.exe
ctfmon.exe
E_S10IC2.EXE
firefox.exee
usnsvc.exe
Although, I'm posing the question: Why all the ipod rubbish? Why both lexmark and epson processess, surely you only run one printer at a time?
And, should really turn off the real and java updaters asap.
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 20:13
by deject
the only bad thing the java updater might do is use up a minuscule amount of resources.
also, have you tried nuking it from orbit*?
*uninstall and delete all directories and registry keys
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 20:17
by buzzmong
deject wrote:the only bad thing the java updater might do is use up a minuscule amount of resources.
also, have you tried nuking it from orbit*?
*uninstall and delete all directories and registry keys
True, but this is about getting CS:S to work, not general housekeeping, therefore, kill EVERYTHING!
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 20:35
by thewombleofdeath
are you sure its a process that is killing steam and not a driver or a virus or something?
Posted: May 14th, 2007, 20:41
by buzzmong
thewombleofdeath wrote:are you sure its a process that is killing steam and not a driver or a virus or something?
Only one way to find out right?
But, make sure all your drivers are upto date first.