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editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 0:37
by Mr. Johnson
Ok, so me, grimmie and tezz played a minecraft adventure map just now, and I've recorded everything. everything.
However, I'm a complete noob in this and I need the following: Editing tools for editing, preferably something free and noob friendly.
Secondly, some help with my sound. I get a lot of white noise when I record, obviously because my mic picks it up, so is there any way I can edit that out? And more importantly; how do I make it stop picking up the white noise altogether?

Here's a little example:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMgEVRLJ_c4[/media]

I don't sound nearly as sexy as I thought I did. :(

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 4:09
by deject
As far as the mic noise, I'd think muting the mic in the mixer should take care of that.

As for video software, there are some options. I haven't used any of them though:
Jahshaka (formerly CineFX)
AviSynth + VirtualDubMod

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 9:39
by ProfHawking
Won't muting the mic remove all sound, including the talking :P

I think you would be best running the audio through some filters to try and remove the noise. I've had a crack at it from that youtube vid. A longer sample might be able to improve the filtering, especially if you can record some of the white noise on its own without anyone talking so I can get more specific on it's frequencies. Anywhoo, this is the sort of thing i mean: http://www.clintweb.co.uk/random/filteredmjandgrim.mp3

For best results, record the game sounds on a separate track to your microphones, and record your mics seperately as well - grimmie is a lot quieter than you are.
If you want me to have a play with the audio tracks, send the files over and I can have a fiddle with them.

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 11:39
by Grimmie
I have no idea how you'd record them on separate tracks, we were using FRAPS. Is there a setting for that?
You can certainly rip the audio off and pass it through an audio cleaner like prof suggested. I've used SoundBooth for the 5podcasts and it works well.

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 12:18
by ProfHawking
Are you using a USB headset?
If not, I think you may need multiple sound cards thinking about it.
Unless you have a fancy sound card that can do multiple channels, something like the M-Audio Audiophile 2496

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 12:31
by Mr. Johnson
No, I'm using a siberia V2 with 3.5 mm jacks.
A sound card is a bit too expensive for me, but would one of these help?

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 12:55
by Joose
I thought TS had a built in recording function? Couldnt you have one person record the game audio, and the other person record the TS audio, then mix em together after?

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 13:01
by ProfHawking
That steelseries usb thing is a soundcard, so yes if you have one of them hanging about it would work ok i should think.
Do you have a seperate sound card already though? If so you may be able to use that and your motherboard's on-board sound for your mic.

This all may be overkill thinking about it though, if you just make sure your mic levels are the same, then recording it with the games probably wont make too much difference. Just make sure there is a section of background "silence" (white noise on its own) to get a sample from that can be used to remove it from the rest of the soundtrack.

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 13:02
by ProfHawking
Joose wrote:I thought TS had a built in recording function? Couldnt you have one person record the game audio, and the other person record the TS audio, then mix em together after?
Joose is a genius, yes do this if TS does that. :likesitall:
You just have to make sure that fraps sound is not also recording your voices, or you will end up with two layers of voice.

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 13:09
by Thompy
Dxtory will record your mic and game/system sound as separate audio tracks. In this case you'd get game+grimme as one track and you as another. It's a bit more complicated than Fraps but better in a few ways.

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 13:29
by Grimmie
ProfHawking wrote:
Joose wrote:I thought TS had a built in recording function? Couldnt you have one person record the game audio, and the other person record the TS audio, then mix em together after?
Joose is a genius, yes do this if TS does that. :likesitall:
You just have to make sure that fraps sound is not also recording your voices, or you will end up with two layers of voice.
Which it will, won't it? Doesn't it just record computer audio, rather than game audio alone?

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 13:37
by Mr. Johnson
That might be worth a shot Joose, I didn't know you could record via TS. Thanks! :likesitall:
And Prof, I don't actually have one of those steelseries soundcard thingies, all I have is my standard motherboard soundcard. I've been flitting through the options of my win7 sound options but I can't find anything to cancel out the white noise (which would be easier than editing it out afterwards) on my previous rig I didn't have a separate soundcard either but using the realtek HD settings I could actually cancel out most background noise, and I can't find anything similar here.

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 14:50
by deject
Thompy wrote:Dxtory will record your mic and game/system sound as separate audio tracks. In this case you'd get game+grimme as one track and you as another. It's a bit more complicated than Fraps but better in a few ways.
I use DXTory and I find it to be much better than the versions of FRAPS I've used in the past. I can record at 720p with almost no slowdown whatsoever, and the video quality is impeccable. It is a tad expensive, but it's totally worth it if you want to record game video. It's nearly infinitely configurable so you can tweak it to hell and back.

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 14:56
by Mr. Johnson
I did a quick test with teamspeak and the white noise is significantly less, so it seems that for now it would be best if someone else recorded the conversations whilst I record the video. I'll have a look at editing programs we can use.

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 17:23
by Dog Pants
I have nothing to add to this other than :likesitall:

Well done you bummers for trying to make this.

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 17:38
by Mr. Johnson
I'd withhold my congratulations for when it's finished and uploaded, but it's appreciated.
Prof, what is the best way to get some files over to you? FRAPS cut them into ten minute bits of 4 GB each, but dropbox only has about 2 GB.

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 18:01
by ProfHawking
Does that include the video or is it just the audio tracks?

If its just the audio :shock: but in either case i will PM you some ftp access goodness.

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 18:06
by Thompy
Whoa nelly! Sending the raw AVIs seems a tad excessive, better to rip the audio out as an mp3 or something then you're looking at about 5MB per 4GB section I guess.

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 18:17
by Mr. Johnson
Thompy wrote:Whoa nelly! Sending the raw AVIs seems a tad excessive, better to rip the audio out as an mp3 or something then you're looking at about 5MB per 4GB section I guess.
That sounds like a better plan, but eh.. how do I go about that?

Re: editing software+fraps sound

Posted: February 16th, 2012, 18:20
by ProfHawking
:above: Yes I should have mentioned, if it is both audio & video, splitting it would be a good
Open up the file in vdubmod or something, and save the sountrack. (In vdubmod: Streams > Steam List. Select audio track, press Demux)