5punk

well most of one.

needs to be core 2, have 2gb of ram, a nice case and psu

(hdd, gpu and sound card aren't needed)

price should be somewhere between sensible and too much.

Yeah, do one for me too.

pah! you dont want any of that new fangled trickery, you want one of these babys!

http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?c=195

i used to have one, and it did everything i needed it for.....(playing leisure suit larry in full on CGA-o-vision IIRC)

Dr. kitteny berk wrote: (hdd, gpu and sound card aren't needed)

Au contraire, GPU and sound card are needed, by me! So upgrade and donate them this way!

umm, not specifically for you, but i did spec a £1000 machine the other day.

Needs more PSU (maybe)

FatherJack wrote:Needs more PSU

this man is correct.

Um, top line? But that's very cheap for a case and PSU.

edit: Oh I see what you mean; a more powerful PSU, not the lack of.

for those that don't get the psu thing:

Wattage on a PSU is usually quoting peak output, or sustained output.

Peak output (what most cheap PSUs are measured in) refers to the peak wattage a PSU can put out for a short period of time (as in seconds) often these will be fine for a while, then will develop issues (from being overloaded) and die horribly, potentially killing other components

Sustained output (nice PSUs) refers to the output the PSU can give all day every day without issue, sometimes a PSU that has a sustained output will also mention a peak somewhere such as "650W (710W peak)"

As such, I *ALWAYS* spec a good PSU, as poor PSUs are a *very* common reason for unstable machines and always lead to problems or extra cost replacing them.

PSUs are especially important on a machine with a high end graphics card as some will pull over 100W.

Keep the PSU that comes in a case for an old machine (like an old athlon system) which aren't so fussy about power

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:As such, I *ALWAYS* spec a good PSU, as poor PSUs are a *very* common reason for unstable machines and always lead to problems or extra cost replacing them.

To add weight to the good Doctor's case, our desktop workstations at work have cheap 200w PSUs on Athlons and P4s. We've lost literally dozens of them because of the under-spec PSU. Mostly just PSU failure, but some motherboard and HDD losses too.

Obviously this would be a lot more expensive in the UK, but...

Case: Lian Li PC-V1100BPlus II @ $240
It's black, it's pretty, and it should be fairly quiet.

PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850W @ $300
850 watts should be enough.

Motherboard: Asus Striker eXtreme @ $360
Fanceh new nVidia chipset. SLI goodness. Expensive as hell.

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 @ $310
Really needs no explanation. E6700 is $200 more.

HSF: Thermaltake Big Typhoon @ $50
Big, relatively quiet, should be able to clear all of the passive cooling cruft on the mobo.

RAM: Corsair Dominator 2x1GB PC2-8500 @ $390
Plenty of nice, fast RAM.

For a total of about $1650. I'll take two, please.

It's not "a" machine bitches, it's "some" machine bitches. Also, I'm not sure where you'd get any of those. Japan probably has a few.

Currently my shopping list looks like this:

US:

RAM: CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) $360

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz $310

Mobo: something on the 680i chipset - asus striker if they work upside down. $400 (or less)

UK:

Case: Lian-Li PC V1000 PLUS Black £130

Heatsink: Thermaltake Big Typhoon £30

PSU: Enermax Galaxy 850W £200

Total: just shy of too much.

looks good to me

CPU: AMD FX 62 - £470
GFX: 2 X Nvidia 8800GTX - £980
Motherboard: Asus FN590 - £170
Memory: 2GB (2 X 1GB twined) Corsair DDR2 PC8888 - £470
Hard Drives: 2 X 750GB Seagate Baracudas + 1 X 74GB Western Digital Raptor = £610
Case: NZXT Nemesis - £90
Power Supply: 600W Coolmaster iGreen - £90
Monitor: 2 X 30" Dell 3007WFP - £2000
Keyboard: Coolermaster Silver Aluminum Keyboard - £20
Mouse: Razer Copperhead Gaming Tempest - £50

Total: £4,950

Ouch

Hehulk wrote:<strike>CPU: AMD FX 62 - £470</strike> poor performance compared to core 2 duos
GFX: 2 X Nvidia 8800GTX - £980
Motherboard: Asus FN590 - £170
Memory: 2GB (2 X 1GB twined) Corsair DDR2 PC8888 - £470
Hard Drives: 2 X 750GB Seagate Baracudas + 1 X 74GB Western Digital Raptor = £610
<strike>Case: NZXT Nemesis - £90</strike> why buy a cheap case that looks like shit?
<strike>Power Supply: 600W Coolmaster iGreen - £90</strike> 1) crap 2) not big enough, try 800W+
Monitor: 2 X 30" Dell 3007WFP - £2000
Keyboard: Coolermaster Silver Aluminum Keyboard - £20
<strike>Mouse: Razer Copperhead Gaming Tempest - £50</strike> Horrible

Total: £4,950

Ouch

Hehulk wrote:CPU: AMD FX 62 - £470
GFX: 2 X Nvidia 8800GTX - £980
Motherboard: Asus FN590 - £170
Memory: 2GB (2 X 1GB twined) Corsair DDR2 PC8888 - £470
Hard Drives: 2 X 750GB Seagate Baracudas + 1 X 74GB Western Digital Raptor = £610
Case: NZXT Nemesis - £90
Power Supply: 600W Coolmaster iGreen - £90
Monitor: 2 X 30" Dell 3007WFP - £2000
Keyboard: Coolermaster Silver Aluminum Keyboard - £20
Mouse: Razer Copperhead Gaming Tempest - £50

Total: £4,950

Ouch

I trump your hypothetical e-penis.

https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wi ... le=WHAT%2E

From my favourite currency conversion website

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10,929.71 USD       =       5,709.568 GBP
United States Dollars   United Kingdom Pounds  
1 USD = 0.522390 GBP   1 GBP = 1.91428 USD

I just need to stick a soundcard and a surround sound system into mine, then we'd be about equal

Hehulk wrote:From my favourite currency conversion website
Code: Select all
10,929.71 USD       =       5,709.568 GBP
United States Dollars   United Kingdom Pounds  
1 USD = 0.522390 GBP   1 GBP = 1.91428 USD  
I just need to stick a soundcard and a surround sound system into mine, then we'd be about equal

You have to remember though, all our computer parts are also cheaper over here, so the stuff you're suggesting would also cost less.

deject wrote:You have to remember though, all our computer parts are also cheaper over here, so the stuff you're suggesting would also cost less.

Bah!

5punk

spec me a machine bitches.

spec me a machine bitches.

Re: spec me a machine bitches.