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Netgear DG834n FAIL.

Posted: January 19th, 2009, 21:12
by amblin
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Posted: January 19th, 2009, 22:03
by spoodie
I think someone at work uses network over power, I'll check. They don't play games but they are technically minded.

Or perhaps another/better wifi adaptor would do the trick. I think they vary on how good they are at picking up the signal. If you're using a USB adaptor on a full PC perhaps you could try a cheap PCI card instead.

Posted: January 19th, 2009, 22:10
by deject
a quick google search turned up this product.

It's been now about 10 years since powerline networking was first tried on the market and only now are they becoming usable.

Also these: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/networ ... s-review/1

Posted: January 19th, 2009, 22:11
by Fear
I've lived in 2 rented houses, both I heavily network cabled up - I'd say just do it. When you leave just fill the hole and paint over it - 20 min job.

I have experience of people using Ethernet-over-power - it works but it can leave your network exposed to anyone on the same phase as you down your street.

I'd use wires or proper secured wireless.

Posted: January 19th, 2009, 22:13
by amblin
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Posted: January 19th, 2009, 22:15
by amblin
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Posted: January 19th, 2009, 22:21
by spoodie
Fear wrote:I have experience of people using Ethernet-over-power - it works but it can leave your network exposed to anyone on the same phase as you down your street.
That is quite unlikely to be a problem though, these devices aren't widely used as far as I know. But if there was a nerd local they could be a serious risk. Perhaps only use the devices when gaming and otherwise use wifi?

Posted: January 20th, 2009, 3:00
by Dr. kitteny berk
or you could just buy a router that's not made by netgear, to non standard standards based on guesswork :P

Posted: January 20th, 2009, 4:11
by FatherJack
I use Linksys, a subsiduary of Cisco. I do favour wired connections though, but I've only ever drilled one hole and just have the cables lying on the floor near to the wall, even down the stairs.

Posted: January 20th, 2009, 4:15
by Dr. kitteny berk
:above: wired really is the way forward, even if you end up running a few switches to minimise trailing wires, you'll probably get better value and performance, and certainly more speed than any other option.

Also, gaffer tape is perfectly suitable for keeping cables from killing people.

Posted: January 20th, 2009, 9:40
by amblin
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Posted: January 20th, 2009, 9:51
by Dr. kitteny berk
amblin wrote:Duck tape would be fine, except it'll look horrible and my housemate would winge like a bitch.
Duct tape: also for faces

Posted: January 20th, 2009, 9:58
by amblin
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Posted: January 20th, 2009, 12:24
by Dog Pants
amblin wrote:Duck tape would be fine, except it'll look horrible and my housemate would winge like a bitch.
Swear felcher?

Posted: January 20th, 2009, 12:26
by HereComesPete
Does the felcher now turn rape into duck as well?!

Posted: January 20th, 2009, 13:05
by amblin
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Posted: January 20th, 2009, 13:53
by Fear
amblin wrote:Did you go straight to the outside through the walls or just pin cables up the skirting?
I looked for the most discrete inside route. Normally if you can go up near curtains they mask 90% of the otherwise visible cable. I was drilling into the corner of ceilings, lifting a floorboard upstairs and then running them under the carpets from there. You can get 1, maybe 2, cat5/6 cables between the carpet gripper and the wall normally, which makes it completely invisible, even to the foot, as you won't feel the lump of the cable. Yes, feet can see.

Using cupboards, porches, pantries or built-in wardrobes is easiest. Or if you have an attached garage they make nice tidy rooms to run cables between upstairs and down. Attics are handy for distributing cables upstairs, or in bungalows.

Edit: use proper cable tacks where you need to, normally in the corner of the downstairs room as it goes up. Use white/light grey cables too, you don't want a red cable, etc.

Posted: January 20th, 2009, 18:55
by Fred Woogle
Fear wrote:Attics are handy for distributing cables upstairs, or in bungalows.
^^ This, from my room I have 4 cables running through the attic, and then 2 more through the bottom corner of the wall.

Easiest way is the take the connectors off and re-attach them, need smaller holes then.

When you move, use a little bit of polifiller in a tube to fill the holes :)