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If you're using Fista, Service Pack 1 was just officially released

Download it here
list of hotfixes and updates in SP1

as usual, if you installed the SP1 Release Candidate, you must uninstall it before installing the official SP1.

microsoft.com wrote:DO NOT CLICK DOWNLOAD IF YOU ARE UPDATING JUST ONE COMPUTER: A smaller, more appropriate download is available on Windows Update.

Hurrah, though. RC1 fixed some issues, especially network stability. Hopefully it won't break hibernation and sleep like it did before.
Actually, I may make an image of this install, to be sure.

edit: 66MB instead of 400Mb. Nice.

The file I'm linking to is the all-encompassing standalone/offline version, which will patch any Fista. For single PC's it's probably faster to get it from Windows Update, as WU will only download what it needs. Still, if you have more than one PC to update or are planning to re-install Fista in the near future, it's easier to download this and not have to wait for WU to download what it needs multiple times.

Quite true.

I'm just testing out SP1 now. It seems work. *prods*

Poos, the performance index is still 5.9 max - I thought they were increasing it.

Also, the 64-bit one is now finally online.

Hmm, from your experience, which should I install? x84(32bit) or x64?

And don't reply none I still have XP installed just in case

Non.....X64

Hehulk wrote:Non.....X64

unless of course, you need support for more than 3gb of ram.

The only thing that bothers me is the possible problem of my sound card and possibly others not having decent drivers.

TezzRexx wrote:The only thing that bothers me is the possible problem of my sound card and possibly others not having decent drivers.

Do the sensible thing, look for all your hardware's drivers before making the jump.

By now, I'd expect everything but the most obscure hardware to be properly supported, ~But~ SP1 may well have introduced new issues.

Oh, and soundcards in Fista are a strange thing, but most should work (hell, loads of them will have drivers already built into Fista)

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:Oh, and soundcards in Fista are a strange thing

Very this.

TezzRexx wrote:Hmm, from your experience, which should I install? x84(32bit) or x64?

And don't reply none I still have XP installed just in case

I read an article that appeared in the news forum a while ago which said that its not worth installing a 64 bit OS just to get the last 512mb or so from 4gb of ram. 64 bit OS's use more ram anyway because of the 64 bit word size and so it negates the extra bit of ram you've just gained. Then you have other compatibility problems on top of that from switching to 64 bit, so I'd say stick to 32 bit for now.

Lee wrote:64 bit OS's use more ram anyway because of the 64 bit word size and so it negates the extra bit of ram you've just gained.

that's a load of bollocks

deject wrote:that's a load of bollocks

deject wrote:
that's a load of bollocks

I knew some one would reply with that

Just saying what I read, think it was from bit-tech or some one.

It is possible they meant the switch from 32 bit XP to 64 bit Fista. A lot of people putting 4 Meg into their XP box don't even realise that it's not all addressed properly, so when they read that and decide on 64 bit Fista they would think it'd make a difference, when in fact Fista needing moar ram to run well negates some of the difference in ram anyway.

But as for the needing moar ram because of the bit size in general = no not really. They can address more because they're better at it - 2³² addresses for a 32 bit OS versus 2⁶⁴ addresses for a 64 bit OS, this is 4GB versus 17.2 million GB or 16EB.

The difference appears when older programs that cannot be emulated into 64 bit modes are run. The 32 bit address and header take the space of a 64 bit piece of information and more ram is used and the system runs slower because the cpu is doing more calculations to sort it all out, but even then it's pretty negligible in terms of slowdown.

A few years back most things didn't really benefit from the extra data paths or registers so it wasn't worth moving. No reason not to now unless you have some ancient hangy offy bits on your pc.

I hope that helps everyone more than 'that's a load of bollocks'.

There's still quite a bit that doesn't work in Fista 64, mostly 32-bit programmes.

I've had trouble with GetRight and NZB-O-Matic - they crash very frequently and I boot to 32-bit for downloading.

Games with that protection that Project Torque and Albatross 18 have don't like it.

XFire can't detect 64-bit games running - the only one I've noticed being 64-bit is Hellgate, though.

Having proper 64-bit versions of all of the above would doubtless fix all of these, but it doesn't seem to happening very quickly.

I've also found it tricky to get something to monitor motherboard temps, as the new nVidia panel is woeful. Ended up using the sidebar doohickey that needs Everest running to work, which is a potential source of problems in itself.

Drivers-wise haven't had much trouble. The auto-fan control for the 680i actually works now (didn't under Fista 32), but the mic 20db gain always turns itself off on reboot.

i don't seem to be able to get sp1. i don't think i have any of the problematic drivers it mentions so i don't know what the problem is?

Have you tried clicking the link at the top of the page?

Pfffft.