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Spec me some IP over mains kit bitches

Posted: January 3rd, 2008, 14:58
by fabyak
:above:

Needs to be robust and preferably have a web interface

[edit] fix'd for mong-like spelling

Re: Spec me some IP over mains kit bitches

Posted: January 3rd, 2008, 15:19
by amblin
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Re: Spec me some IP over mains kit bitches

Posted: January 3rd, 2008, 15:25
by fabyak
amblin wrote:
Fix'd. No idea about the thing though, I just ran Cat5e through my house. Far simpler.
This is for at work, and it's to connect a building which currently has a cable trailed out to it which gets upset whenever the wind blows which is a problem as it's in quite an open area

Re: Spec me some IP over mains kit bitches

Posted: January 3rd, 2008, 15:33
by spoodie
amblin wrote:Cat
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Posted: January 3rd, 2008, 23:21
by Dr. kitteny berk
if it's a totally different building, are you sure it's even on the same power dobber?

May also be worth looking at why it buggers up in the wind, maybe it just needs a less shitty cable.

Posted: January 3rd, 2008, 23:27
by HereComesPete
:above: That.

Also, bury cable under a few metres of earth, wind will no longer be a problem. :P

Posted: January 3rd, 2008, 23:30
by amblin
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Posted: January 3rd, 2008, 23:31
by HereComesPete
Good God! That picture of a man has four arms! Who drew this? Fools!

Posted: January 3rd, 2008, 23:35
by Dr. kitteny berk
amblin wrote:Or revert to more tried and tested techniques...
IP-SFS Relies a bit too heavily on humanoid bio-robots, they tend to complain.

Maybe IPoAC would be more suitable

Posted: January 3rd, 2008, 23:46
by cheeseandham
a famous RFC
here's how to implement
http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/index.html

Posted: January 3rd, 2008, 23:49
by Dr. kitteny berk
cheeseandham wrote:a famous RFC
here's how to implement
http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/index.html
tis a classic.

Posted: January 3rd, 2008, 23:59
by cheeseandham
we've used these
http://www.itreviews.co.uk/hardware/h1001.htm
ok,but slow.
no web interface. but no interface at all is there or needed.
advice above about being same ring mains applies

what about a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_bridge ?

am on pda, hence bad posting...

Posted: January 4th, 2008, 0:53
by Fear
Use exterior grade Cat5e stuffs? Mega expensive but it's the proper solution.

Fibre optics isn't a bad idea either, however you'd need to protect it in a copper or plastic trunking at the very least.

Wireless bridge is also a good idea.

IP over mains is just asking for trouble. Especially in a commercial environment or area, who knows how many harmonics, inductive loads and transformers are going to be pissing on your packets. You might even find you're on a different phase of the supply in each building, causing further urination.

Posted: January 4th, 2008, 1:21
by cheeseandham
:above: yup, listen to the electronics nerd ;)

Posted: January 4th, 2008, 1:27
by eion
How far apart are the two buildings?

Posted: January 4th, 2008, 1:31
by HereComesPete
This far.*











*May not be to scale.

Posted: January 4th, 2008, 20:23
by FatherJack
Have you checked with who ever looks after the power in the buildings? It's possible they'll either say there's no way it'll work, or have a total hissy fit at the suggestion of interfering in any way with their lovely electricity.

The guys at our place would likely have a similar reaction to what ours would be if someone asked if they could use our UPS to power their kettle, use the internal network to set up Windows file sharing, or utilise the disk space on the mail servers to store their files - it's not what was made for, and will potentially degrade the service in some way for other users.

Posted: January 5th, 2008, 14:36
by Plug Full of Lead
for IP over mains to work they need to be on the same phase, been as it is going accross two buildings I very much doubt they would be on the same phase and if they are very large premises then they would be using 3 phase mains.