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ive been asked if i would like to buy a 3.4ghz p4 ES (engineering sample) and a pci-e x800xt with a mobo to suit (with swanky neon cables) for around £350(but i expect this could go up to about 400, it was just a guestimate)
now i dont have a clue whats going on with the ES bit, they seem like a geeky myth. do you guys have any thoughts on this? is this the deal of the century it looks like?

I voted 'yo mamma' because I haven't got a fucking clue what this poll is about

heh, well aparently engineering samples are exactly that, samples given to engineers before launch of a chip so they can determine the ideal speed. hence making them built for overclocking to the max

cashy wrote:heh, well aparently engineering samples are exactly that, samples given to engineers before launch of a chip so they can determine the ideal speed. hence making them built for overclocking to the max

http://www.5punk.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic. ... 8595#18595

i see...
*gives you a ball to bounce*

cashy wrote:heh, well aparently engineering samples are exactly that, samples given to engineers before launch of a chip so they can determine the ideal speed. hence making them built for overclocking to the max

I think that's a bit wrong.

Generally, engineering samples are early builds for demoing etc, often sent to reviewers and suchlike.

google say: http://www.engineering-sample.com

cashy wrote:i see...
*gives you a ball to bounce*

*bounces ball*

*grins*

*drools*

aah. well im not sure if they are built any different, but i gather from http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/198 : TINAC!

cashy wrote:aah. well im not sure if they are built any different, but i gather from http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/198 :

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The first difficulty is that since the first Pentium 4 the clock multiplier is locked. Only engineering samples (that are made for testing) and the Extreme Edition models have the unlocked clock multiplier. Engineering samples are identified with the letters “ES” and are not available in the market. Some manufacturers, such as ABIT, have created motherboards that can bypass that protection against overclocking.

TINAC!

Cor! Assuming it hasn't been "tested" too rigorously it sounds like a collector's piece, if nothing else!

Roman_Totale wrote:I voted 'yo mamma' because I haven't got a fucking clue what this poll is about

This hehe

considering the cost of a X800XT alone and a 3.4GHz I'd say that's about right, as long as it's not more than the £350 and if the mobo is decent.

Still, for £350 you should be able to buy a better AMD based system which will serve you better in games.

Sounds like a reasonable price to me