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Starting to build new setup

Posted: September 28th, 2005, 22:28
by Fred Woogle
I'm going to start building my new machine soon, I'm going for,

GFX - 2 x GeForce 7800GTX's
RAM - 4GB's DDR2
Sound - Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
DVD - 2 x Phillip's DVDRW's that burn an Image onto the disc
HDD - My Existing 120GB SATA & 200GB ATA, and a new 400GB SATA

Not sure what PSU yet though.

But I needed some help on the best processpr for gaming, and then I can pick my Mobo. What would you reccomend??

Thanks
Ty

Re: Starting to build new setup

Posted: September 28th, 2005, 22:31
by Dr. kitteny berk
Ty aka Sir Die Aloty wrote:I'm going to start building my new machine soon, I'm going for,

GFX - 2 x GeForce 7800GTX's
RAM - 4GB's DDR2
Sound - Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
DVD - 2 x Phillip's DVDRW's that burn an Image onto the disc
HDD - My Existing 120GB SATA & 200GB ATA, and a new 400GB SATA

Not sure what PSU yet though.

But I needed some help on the best processpr for gaming, and then I can pick my Mobo. What would you reccomend??

Thanks
Ty
Give the graphics cards a few weeks, ATI's new R520 stuff may blow nvidia out of the water.

RAM wise DDR/DRR2 is questionable as yet, DDR is often as fast/faster.

CPU: go for athlon 64 and socket 939.

mobo: wiat to see what happens with graphics cards.

Re: Starting to build new setup

Posted: September 28th, 2005, 22:32
by Fred Woogle
Dr. kitteny berk wrote:
Ty aka Sir Die Aloty wrote:I'm going to start building my new machine soon, I'm going for,

GFX - 2 x GeForce 7800GTX's
RAM - 4GB's DDR2
Sound - Soundblaster Audigy 2 ZS Platinum
DVD - 2 x Phillip's DVDRW's that burn an Image onto the disc
HDD - My Existing 120GB SATA & 200GB ATA, and a new 400GB SATA

Not sure what PSU yet though.

But I needed some help on the best processpr for gaming, and then I can pick my Mobo. What would you reccomend??

Thanks
Ty
Give the graphics cards a few weeks, ATI's new R520 stuff may blow nvidia out of the water.

RAM wise DDR/DRR2 is questionable as yet, DDR is often as fast/faster.

CPU: go for athlon 64 and socket 939.

mobo: wiat to see what happens with graphics cards.
Thankies Mr Berk :)

Which athlon 64 though?

Posted: September 28th, 2005, 22:33
by spoodie
I recommend that will cost a lot of money, I thought you just lost your job?

my proper opinion:
any fast CPU will do, I prefer AMD for not particular reason
4GB is more than you need, 2GB would be plenty for a good while

Posted: September 28th, 2005, 22:34
by Dr. kitteny berk
spoodie wrote:I recommend that will cost a lot of money, I thought you just lost your job?

my proper opinion:
any fast CPU will do, I prefer AMD for not particular reason
4GB is more than you need, 2GB would be plenty for a good while
I concur, and time will do a *LOT* for memory prices.

Posted: September 28th, 2005, 22:42
by Fred Woogle
spoodie wrote:I recommend that will cost a lot of money, I thought you just lost your job?

my proper opinion:
any fast CPU will do, I prefer AMD for not particular reason
4GB is more than you need, 2GB would be plenty for a good while
I did, I have a credit card :S

Posted: September 28th, 2005, 22:57
by spoodie
Ty aka Sir Die Aloty wrote:I did, I have a credit card :S
prepare to be pwned by Barclays ;)

Posted: September 28th, 2005, 23:01
by Fred Woogle
spoodie wrote:
Ty aka Sir Die Aloty wrote:I did, I have a credit card :S
prepare to be pwned by Barclays ;)
American Express & Lloyd's TSB

Posted: September 29th, 2005, 6:01
by deject
With no budget limit:

CPU: Athlon 64 X2 4800+
Mobo: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe (with onboard RAID 5!)
RAM: 2GB of whatever tickles your fancy

Posted: September 29th, 2005, 6:04
by Dr. kitteny berk
deject wrote:With no budget limit:

CPU: Athlon 64 X2 4800+
Mobo: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe (with onboard RAID 5!)
RAM: 2GB of whatever tickles your fancy
I mostly see no point in RAIDing for home systems. especially not raid 5

0+1 on two 74gb raptors and a storage drive on a gaming system is fair.


really no point using raid5 unless you've got a fileserver or something.

Posted: September 29th, 2005, 6:08
by deject
Call me a nerd or whatever, but I like the idea of uber-reliability and improved performance.

Posted: September 29th, 2005, 6:13
by Dr. kitteny berk
Mostly i think with modern HDDs, there's little risk of failure in most cases.

If you're that worried about it, i'd suggest an external HDD and/or using a spare box as a fileserver etc for extra security.

Posted: September 29th, 2005, 8:49
by mrbobbins
So you've lost your job and are now going to slap a couple of grand on your credit cards for a new PC?,

Hellooooo Ocean Finance!!

Posted: September 29th, 2005, 11:07
by Woo Elephant Yeah
mrbobbins wrote:Hellooooo Ocean Finance!!
*holds up garish orange balloon with typical rates on the side*

Posted: September 29th, 2005, 19:01
by Roman Totale
Woo Elephant Yeah wrote:
mrbobbins wrote:Hellooooo Ocean Finance!!
*holds up garish orange balloon with typical rates on the side*
Oh my god! What have you done to Kilroy?!

Posted: September 29th, 2005, 19:53
by deject
Dr. kitteny berk wrote:Mostly i think with modern HDDs, there's little risk of failure in most cases.

If you're that worried about it, i'd suggest an external HDD and/or using a spare box as a fileserver etc for extra security.
hehe, I'm not worried about it. I'm not really running any backup at all right now....

I just love RAID 5 because it really is the penultimate data storage method.

Posted: September 29th, 2005, 19:55
by Roman Totale
And there was me thinking it was a brand of ant-killer :?

Posted: September 29th, 2005, 20:29
by pixie pie
deject wrote:With no budget limit:

CPU: Athlon 64 X2 4800+
Mobo: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe (with onboard RAID 5!)
RAM: 2GB of whatever tickles your fancy
.. For gaming? FX57 > X2 4800+... :)

Posted: September 29th, 2005, 22:09
by caveman900
pixie pie wrote:
deject wrote:With no budget limit:

CPU: Athlon 64 X2 4800+
Mobo: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe (with onboard RAID 5!)
RAM: 2GB of whatever tickles your fancy
.. For gaming? FX57 > X2 4800+... :)
but if you have any programs running the background (antivirus, firewall, antispyware, steam, etc) then the dual core will handle those separately to the game, giving you an overall speed increase even if the game isnt written for dual core. i think, im not 100% sure how the load distribution works.

as for RAM, 2gb is plenty, any more is overkill and too expensive.

also this http://www.komplett.co.uk/k/ki.asp?sku=312207&cks=PRL is worth a look, although you would probably want one of the cheaper versions.

for the mobo, something reliable with reasonable features, it isnt somewere you need to go overboard cost-wise. something reasonably upgradable but nothing too extreme imo.

Posted: September 30th, 2005, 0:04
by deject
pixie pie wrote:
deject wrote:With no budget limit:

CPU: Athlon 64 X2 4800+
Mobo: Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe (with onboard RAID 5!)
RAM: 2GB of whatever tickles your fancy
.. For gaming? FX57 > X2 4800+... :)
I know that a FX-57 will give you 5-10 more FPS than a X2 4800+, but come on, he;s going to put dual 7800GTX's in the damn thing, it's not like he's going to miss 10 FPS, whereas being able to play Battlefield 2 while encoding a video or something is something WAY better. IMO, the fx-57 is really not worth the money.

Also you have to consider that software developers are starting to code for dual core CPUs, seeing as how they will become the standard within a couple of years. That means your single core CPU will be lagging behind all the cool kids with their Dual Core's...