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Is this a goal you could get excited about?

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 18:01
by centerededgedesign
Imagine, if you will, the following:

A cov-ops sneaks into an enemy -held system that holds their coveted mining areas, and finds it unoccupied. The pilot scouts out a clear moon moves to a location out of range of the warp-in. Clearance is issued via VENT that all is green, so he pops his cyno. In hops 3 carriers and 4 rorquals. One of the carriers puts up a small POS while pilots start jump cloning in with the Rorqual clone vats. Some pilots get their command ships and interceptors off the carriers, while others get their Hulks off the Rorq's. While this occurs, the cov ops pilot is scouting out mining positions, and dropping BMs for the mining crews. The combat ships set up at the gate for security with assigned fighters from the carriers, the rorquals set up in the belts and get tank for the Hulks. The Hulk pilots proceed to strip the veld and the high ends out of the system, thus denying the enemy valuable resources for resupplying their fleet. Rather than deploying the rorquals in siege mode to condense the ore, we shoot the cans so that the ore disappears, (unless we feel secure enough to move it to the POS for compressing inside the shield). At the end of the day, the belts are useless, striking both a logistical and a morale blow to the enemy deep in it's home territory. We load up and leave. (This tactic could also be adjusted to bring in Dreads to pound any of their towers that we want to hurt as well).

Now, imagine it's 5punkorp, the ninja miners that do this! Friz once tossed out the idea that we could be mercenary carebears, flying in, setting up a POS or two, and supplying a market for an ally. The reverse could also be true in the example above, we're sneaking in, and denying an asset to the enemy.

The idea of using all T2 ships, (command ships and interceptors) isn't crazy at all when we can mine half a billion in less than a day with less than a handful of pilots. If we had 10 pilots mining, we could build the whole fleet from my example in a month or two (allowing time for the roids to respawn, they aren't infinite!) How long did we have to work to pay for our first carrier?

Of course, pilots are needed as well. The only ship I can fly from that example is the Hulk, and I can't even fit the tank it deserves yet. But I throw it out as a GOAL, a goal that fits both the pvp'ers, and the industrialists, which have both brought accomplishment and honor to 5punkorp in its history. Also, what alliance out there would pass up a corp capable of such a task?

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 18:03
by Dolly Parton
do you work? cause the email u just sent b4 this post is 2 to 3 times this long. how the hell you type that much so fast?

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 18:08
by centerededgedesign
ctrl-c & ctrl-v ftw!!!

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 18:21
by friznit
That's a shit load of isk on the line. And roids respawn too fast to effectively deny the resources for the amount of effort you're putting in. Much better to let them do it, then jump your carriers in and shoot them all before they can get the ore out :ahoy:

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 18:24
by eRabbit
So... it would be gate camping for some and mining for others, arguably two of the most boring tasks in Eve. After this there would be no gain as the ore will have been destroyed? Plus, the enemy could just go mine in another system. :?

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 18:24
by Dolly Parton
centerededgedesign wrote:ctrl-c & ctrl-v ftw!!!
hehe 2 can play this game, check your inbox :P

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 18:38
by centerededgedesign
no, you check yours!

Thanks for the points of grounding to my mad idea. :( The Dres gets excited sometimes and needs reality infusions. Though it would be nice if we could pilot enough Hulks to keep our one Rorqual happy and busy, then grow the fleet by stages until we could move into an area and clear it in hours like this.

Also, the thought was that we'd only destroy the low ends we didn't want to keep, not everything! With decent ore we'd make a couple billion an hour, dependant on how many Hulks we could field.

Also, the unspoken hope was that we'd be doing this for a fee, like another couple billion, for an ally that is fighting these peeps, keeping them busy.

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 19:14
by Dolly Parton
your it :P

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 19:52
by centerededgedesign
Well, I guess we could still hop into an area, build a ton of stuffs quick, and then leave, or even mine minerals for an outpost or some other short and concentrated uber carebear operation. I just don't have pvp work factored into that.....

Trying to find something that gets everyone work in their preferred field at the same time is tough!

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 20:34
by bomberesque
all nice

how we gonna do it with 3 of us online? ;)

Keep it up dres, ideas are what ... well, some stuff that's really good ... are made of

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 21:18
by centerededgedesign
Well, I wasn't supposed to tell you guys, but Dolly's been put in charge of RL cloning at NASA. You'll all be getting some little tubes with swabs in them, you need to rub them inside your cheek, reinsert them in the tube, and send them back in their envelope. In 3-5 days we'll all have a dozen clones to run about and do our work, and to fly up to 5 seperate accounts for us. So without getting new members, (well, new PEOPLE) we'll have about 60 pilots, of which about 30 will be on at any time. See, problem solved!

Oh, and don't tell Dolly I told you...

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 21:33
by Hehulk
Nuts to the swab, I'll get some, samples, in that tube a different way 8)

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 21:46
by Anhamgrimmar
Hehulk wrote:Nuts to the swab, I'll get some, samples, in that tube a different way 8)

i didnt think they made test tubes that small?

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 21:48
by centerededgedesign
Hehulk wrote:Nuts to the swab, I'll get some, samples, in that tube a different way 8)
Hulky, thanks for the thought, but we don't need to clone those we know you can make as many as we need of those. Now if we had some female 5punkers to clone, we might be able to put those to use, but afaik, there aren't any that play Eve.

Posted: October 10th, 2007, 22:19
by Hehulk
I fail at biology. That is all.

Posted: October 11th, 2007, 13:03
by Dolly Parton
centerededgedesign wrote:Oh, and don't tell Dolly I told you...
No one has to you do it so well. ;)