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new graphics card.

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 14:47
by Mr. Johnson
as berk pointed me to it last night, i do not need a new pc, i need a new graphics card to play Bioshock. wich is alot cheaper. anyway, i know i have AGP, so i'm outdated, but what would you reccomend?

here is the spec thingy:



CPU-Z 1.41 report file

Processor(s)

Number of processors 1
Number of cores 1 per processor
Number of threads 1 (max 1) per processor
Name AMD Athlon 64 3500+
Code Name NewCastle
Specification AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+
Package Socket 939
Family/Model/Stepping F.F.0
Extended Family/Model F.F
Brand ID 4
Core Stepping DH7-CG
Technology 0.13 um
Core Speed 2210.8 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 11.0 x 201.0 MHz
HT Link speed 402.0 MHz
Stock frequency 2200 MHz
Instruction sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, x86-64
L1 Data cache (per processor) 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache (per processor) 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache (per processor) 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size

Chipset & Memory

Northbridge NVIDIA nForce3 250 rev. A1
Southbridge NVIDIA nForce3 MCP rev. A2
Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Revision 3.0
AGP Transfer Rate 8x
AGP Side Band Addressing supported, enabled
Memory Type DDR
Memory Size 1024 MBytes
Memory Frequency 157.9 MHz (CPU/14)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 2.5 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRCD) 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 3 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 7 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 10 clocks
DRAM Idle Timer 16 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 2T

System

System Manufacturer
System Name
System S/N
Mainboard Vendor
Mainboard Model MS-7025
BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
BIOS Version 6.00 PG
BIOS Date 11/22/2004

Memory SPD

Module 1 DDR, PC3200 (200 MHz), 512 MBytes, unknown brand
Module 2 DDR, PC3200 (200 MHz), 512 MBytes, unknown brand

Software

Windows Version Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
DirectX Version 9.0c

thanks in advance.

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 14:54
by deject
The best AGP cards you can buy are the X1950 Pro and 7950 GS.

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 14:57
by Dr. kitteny berk
As always, It'll come down to budget.

Your motherboard is a MSI K8N Neo2, which only has AGP support, but that's not too much of a problem.

Look at this any of those cards will be a massive improvement over what you currently have. (all support SM3.0, so bioshock capable)

However, with any of those cards you may have PSU issues (it's probably worth looking at the PSU to work out the make and model)

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 15:42
by Mr. Johnson

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 15:45
by Dr. kitteny berk
That's PCI-E, so kinda useless to you.

Make a nice paperweight though.

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 15:51
by Mr. Johnson
Dr. kitteny berk wrote:That's PCI-E, so kinda useless to you.

Make a nice paperweight though.
fuck me dead. in all the excitement i didn't even notice that.

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 16:32
by eion
A 7800GS might be good bang for buck, and they'll definitely run Bioshock quite nicely.
Also, it may very well not require a PSU upgrade - mine is running on a 250W PSU.

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 16:46
by mrbobbins
eion wrote:A 7800GS might be good bang for buck, and they'll definitely run Bioshock quite nicely.
Got one I'm gonna stick on Ebay if you want to make an offer, BFG 7800GS

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 16:49
by Dr. kitteny berk
mrbobbins wrote:Got one I'm gonna stick on Ebay if you want to make an offer, BFG 7800GS
Do that. Hard.

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 16:52
by eion
mrbobbins wrote:
Got one I'm gonna stick on Ebay if you want to make an offer, BFG 7800GS
:above: Is it the factory OCed flavour? If so, I can vouch for their goodness - at least, the one in my Shuttle's been great.

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 16:52
by tandino
mrbobbins wrote:
Got one I'm gonna stick on Ebay if you want to make an offer, BFG 7800GS
I can attest to this, my AGP Overclockers 7800GS runs bioshock very nicely, as well as pretty much anything else of note knocking about at the moment.

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 17:00
by FatherJack
I thought they had announced AGP 8x00s:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/graphics/ ... -To-Die/p1

Probably a false economy, though.

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 17:46
by Mr. Johnson
mrbobbins wrote:
Got one I'm gonna stick on Ebay if you want to make an offer, BFG 7800GS
what would you like for it? i'm quite intrigued.

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 18:39
by mrbobbins
Mr. Johnson wrote:
what would you like for it? i'm quite intrigued.
Well retail is £93:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... =GX-028-EA

On Ebay they're going for no less than £60

How about £50?

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 18:54
by Mr. Johnson
just to make absolutly sure:

1: you are certain this thing runs on my machine?
2: you are aware i live in belgium, and therefore; overseas?

if you answered yes to both of the above, consider it SOLD!

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 20:22
by HereComesPete
Sounds like the deal is struck, p&p won't be outrageous will it? Didn't we cover agp problems with someone else? Was it 'the incredible...' that had problems? Anyway, good stuff, 5punkers helping 5punkers, we need to rule this country. :P

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 20:31
by Mr. Johnson
HereComesPete wrote:Sounds like the deal is struck, p&p won't be outrageous will it? Didn't we cover agp problems with someone else? Was it 'the incredible...' that had problems? Anyway, good stuff, 5punkers helping 5punkers, we need to rule this country. :P
p&p?

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 20:32
by Dr. kitteny berk
Mr. Johnson wrote:just to make absolutly sure:

1: you are certain this thing runs on my machine?
As sure as can be possible without accounting for very, very unlikely quirks.
HereComesPete wrote:Didn't we cover agp problems with someone else? Was it 'the incredible...' that had problems?
Akiakaiu most recently, I think tandino before that, and wey (lolpsu)
Mr. Johnson wrote:p&p?
Postage & Packaging.

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 20:35
by Mr. Johnson
Dr. kitteny berk wrote:
Postage & Packaging.
a graphics card isn't that heavy now is it?

Posted: September 12th, 2007, 20:37
by HereComesPete
Post and Packaging charges. I went to the post office t'other day with some badly wrapped motorbike handles, got told I had to go away and re-wrap it in a more sensible fashion, or pay an excess because of the unusual shape, I put it in a big ass box, then got told I had to pay more because the box broke some pre-defined size limit, cunts.