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Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » March 2nd, 2007, 1:13

here is the list or roids in the system yesterday. its just the # of each type in belt thats it.

http://www.5punk.co.uk/uploads/8MG-J6%20Roid%20List.JPG

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Fear · Post by **Fear** » March 2nd, 2007, 1:32

Dolly Parton wrote:here is the list or roids in the system yesterday. its just the # of each type in belt thats it.

http://www.5punk.co.uk/uploads/8MG-J6%20Roid%20List.JPG

dp

Nice work.

The arrows at the side means you want right?

Jin · Post by **Jin** » March 2nd, 2007, 1:44

Fear wrote:If you want to avoid carrier jumping the fw4ppers POS contract it to Fear Reticle and I'll haul it up to Airk somewhere. I had a look for quiet suitable systems and from looking at the map I can't see any obvious ones. They all seem a bit piratey.

I can also help haul the fw4ppers hanger contents but if that is full of ships and minerals it would be better suited to a freighter. Modules and that sort of thing no problem.

Rather than move it as I first planned to Hoth - I think I'll move it to Khank where it can go with the rest of the Fw4ppers stuff (i think I saw something about Mano moving that stuff in her Obelisk), if it can't go in a freighter or carrier I'll get Cyrinn to do some AFK hauling.

Just a quick thing - having never taken down a POS before - will Cyrinn need any skills? does she need permissions and if so can someone sort them out before DT tomorrow (Friday) and am I correct in thinking the order is empty stuff and move it to safety -> bring down arrays and hangars and move them to safety -> empty the tower and move it -> then the guns.

If this is wrong call me some names then tell me what's right . I'll get you started ...."no! you n00b...."

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » March 2nd, 2007, 1:49

omg, u n00b!!

That's nearly right. You'll need anchoring 1 to unanchor all of it, and I'd start with industry stuff, then guns, then the tower (since you can't unanchor a tower while there are still modules present and anchored). Also, you'll need the starbase config role, but if you've been using stuff like the ship maintance array to re-fit your ship, or you've fueled the tower you'll have that already.

Miro Mishu · Post by **Miro Mishu** » March 2nd, 2007, 5:51

The empire system we were talking about for manufacturing and science only has manufacturing slots in system. Two stations have 50 slots each. There is no science to be found.. Now my vote is firmly for the POS arrays

Much simplier.

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » March 2nd, 2007, 8:14

Miro Mishu wrote:There is no science to be found..

Welcome to Caldari Space, where the only lab slots to be had have 20D+ waiting queues

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » March 2nd, 2007, 8:33

Been having a nose about in Nuken, since friz listed it as a possible new empire home in-game, and here's some raw data

No of Belts: 7
Stations: 3

Station 1:
50% Refinery
No Production
No clone facilities

Station 2:
32% Refinery
No Production
No clone facilities

Station 3:
No Refinery
No Production
Clone Facilities

I'll go look elsewhere I think.

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » March 2nd, 2007, 9:18

OK, this looks a bit better

System: Hentogaira
No of Belts: 24

Available facilities
Refinery (Need to go check for a 50%)
Clone facilities
Factory

It's 2J from low sec (Possible capital base?), 11 from BWF and 11 from jita. Looks sorta ok to me.

Post by **fabyak** » March 2nd, 2007, 10:27

any ice nearby?

Lee · Post by **Lee** » March 2nd, 2007, 10:41

What was wrong with airaken? Just the price? Do office rentals get paid monthly or weekly?

amblin · Post by **amblin** » March 2nd, 2007, 10:45

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » March 2nd, 2007, 10:49

Lets stick with plan A then? Give it a month of actually living there, then decide what we need/where we want to base proper etc.

friznit · Post by **friznit** » March 2nd, 2007, 10:58

Cheapo temporary office in any old nearby high sec system for Mano to dump stuff would be useful (is the least desirable office in Airk cheaper?)

Bear in mind that 9mill is the starting price - they do go up significantly the longer you hold them.

centerededgedesign · Post by **centerededgedesign** » March 2nd, 2007, 11:18

Actually, between Aki and I, we got quite a bit of the Jaymass POS down on Thursday night! As soon as we can clear Spear's lab slots out, we can tear down the lab, then guns, then tower! For the tower though, it's good to have some combat ships around, since it's stuck there for a bit, and completely defenceless as it unanchors. We'd hate to lose that tower at this point!

I am thinking of changing it out for a caldari tower though, seeing as the ice where we are going is most likely to be Caldari flavored. Would just make logistics much easier is all. Looks like a snow day here today, so might do some scouting for a location for a Fw4ppers tower.

I guess Aki and I are getting better at tearing down POS's, it was a breeze last night! Aki cleared all but fuel out of the hangar in a single trip, then we took off the extra hangar, ship maint array, (just 2 badgers and a bunch of shuttles) and warp scram and sensor damp bits. Guns, one hangar array, lab, and tower are all that remain.

With our new home being close to Empire, we might get Spear to hop over to 5punk now, so we might gain yet another lab for our use! With production going as it seems to be, I'd likely support a third lab if the demand is there for it, (after things have settled down of course!)

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » March 2nd, 2007, 11:34

centerededgedesign wrote:We might get Spear to hop over to 5punk now

Somehow I don't see that working. He joined Fw4ppers because he didn't want to deal with war decs etc. I could be quite easily mistaken though.

Quinntarn · Post by **Quinntarn** » March 2nd, 2007, 11:58

amblin wrote:9mill a month rent... narf, considering how far afield we're now looking for all services, we may be best off with Air. After all - the best use for an office is to marshall stuff to go to 0.0 and run production out of. Best to have it as close as possible. But then it could be a big playground for war targets. Off the beaten track has its advantages...

Dolly and myself were talking to Friz yesterday before he took off. The issue that we covered was To POS or Not to POS. Myself I am kinda burned out of POSing prior to coming to 5punk. In TDOE, i was the major person of running the 2 different pos's. At the time we did not have a freighter, so it was small indy runs, getting podded.

Now, fast foward today. Friz is doing most of the pos stuff. Other people help him out from time to time. Friz is getting burned out, other people are willing to step up from time to time, but not one person can do it all, or wants too.

Suggestion, lets Mine our ass's off for a month. Stockpile what we can, and then see what we got. If its going to be a pain in the butt to move it to empire and build items OR, do we put up a pos and build items there, then ship them out?

Just my .02 isks

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centerededgedesign · Post by **centerededgedesign** » March 2nd, 2007, 12:14

just a thought.....
but mining without a POS to jump to if hostiles come in, isn't that kinda risky?
All they'd have to do is camp the station and we'd be sitting ducks, unless I'm missing something, or barring a friendly POS we can use as a jump to for such cases.

Just my thoughts as well. Don't want us to miss something important.

Fear · Post by **Fear** » March 2nd, 2007, 13:48

friznit wrote:is the least desirable office in Airk cheaper?

Yes.

The one I picked is the best and most expensive. It has every service (inc 50% ref). The rest seem to have about half that in varying combinations.

I'm thinking the other production station was 2mil rent.

Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » March 2nd, 2007, 13:56

as of right now dres we are willing to put up a small pos just for that purpose that was one on my main arguments for it, but it would be strictly for mining and a fall back space. now if we get a corp office for death star than we will set up that instead. any extra CPU after max guns and then we can put the hangar on there. remember we're going to try this out for a few weeks and then decide on permanence. i want a pos but will wait the month (we do go that route I would like to assign people with very simple tasks. these tasks would be like everyone does 2 trips a weak (BS hold for example) and dump in corp hangar. this would relieve stress on pos manager)

remember guys get close t our new home but chill before flooding in. some of the guys in local were friendly you could say but there were a few that had an attitude. i think it was my amarr shuttle i was in but i could be mistaken. they were all tight lipped before we started talking about my breasts. when in doubt talk about my breasts.

dp

:boobs:

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fear yes the arrows on side are the 2 belts I would choose for us. i haven't gotten in there with the roid scanner so not sure on mass but it covers all ores and has max amount in #'s of the high ends

also this corp office for fw4ppers does it really matter if it 2 or 4 jumps away. i can understand 2 to 10 jumps. i would just go for reasonable in price. the rent will go up the closer you are when more ISS corps show up and do the same.

Miro Mishu · Post by **Miro Mishu** » March 6th, 2007, 17:03

Sorry Friz, i didn't see any mention of using the POS for lab slots. I'm glad we are ok with that though. I'd like to put it up as early as possible too because the sooner we do the sooner we get our BP "stuff" back on track. Making copies, research etc.

I did a search yesterday and noticed no raven copies on market at all, as an example.

And i'm continuing our convo from the other thread over to here so we can keep threads tidy(er).

-Miro

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