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Posted: May 20th, 2005, 18:33
by deject
PC2100 I believe is actually DDR266 or 133MHz x2.

Posted: May 20th, 2005, 18:42
by killslay
we just did an assesment in college about this, they have to be the same size and have to be more than the chipset bit width apparently.
if in doubt ask your local pc shop, (thats if you can trust them, my local pc shop told my dad we'd have to pay them money for a new monitor when all we needed to do was put it into safe mode and change teh resolution)

Posted: May 20th, 2005, 18:52
by Dr. kitteny berk
deject wrote:PC2100 I believe is actually DDR266 or 133MHz x2.
this is correct.

2700 is 166/ddr333
3200 is 200/ddr400

Posted: June 2nd, 2005, 19:18
by FatherJack
Umm, loads of cobbled together bits in front of me now:

P4 1.7GHz in a large, but boring case with an excessive amount of fans in
512MB RAM, have about 4GB in the drawer but haven't been arsed to install it
GeForce FX5600
2x120GB HDD
Other bits include 17" monitor, Packard Bell Keyboard/Mouse/Remote control thingy that doesn't work, NetGear wireless router and a HP SureStore DAT24x6 autochanger tape drive which hasn't worked since XPSP2.
Downstairs there's a 24-port switch connected to a Sony Vaio 2.6GHz with a huge screen, GoForce 5200 and half a terabyte of disk.

Everything except the keyboard and 2x120GB disks was bought by my employer and is used for montioring server status from home. I don't play games on them. Ever. Or have 500GB of movies.

I hope to be able to liberate a 3.2GHz mainboard soon from one of the eleven machines in my office. I will be able to monitor servers much faster, then.

:D

system update

Posted: June 3rd, 2005, 0:19
by ProfHawking
i thought i should post here again, as ive changed my system.
I used to have this:
http://www.5punk.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=4086#4086

My old machine was good enough, but hard to carry on the train! Now i get better performance out of a Shuttle, albeit with "only" two monitors.
New spec:

Shuttle SN45Gv3
Athlon XP 2800 overclocked to xp3200 @ 2.2ghz 200fsb
2x512mb Crucial Ballistix ram, dual channel, cas2
ATI X800pro 256mb
74gb WD Raptor 10,000rpm SATA main hard drive
250gb SATA storage drive
NEC 16x DVDR drive (silver to match of course!)

The 19" tft and right side monitor have stayed.

It runs pretty quick, and i havent found a game i cant run on full settings yet. Doom3 slows it down a tiny bit, but not unplayable. Source looks fucking sweet. cant wait to try that new level they are doing the graphics up on.

Anyway, means i have a few bits going spare now.
anyone interested in:
Winfast geforce ti4800se 128mb agp graphics card
Sapphire 9200se 128mb pci graphics card
2x 512mb samsung ddr 400
A Chiftec Dragon case, in metallic blue. I also have the chiftec wireless keyboard/mouse combo in the same colour to match. The case is modded slightly with red EL wire behind the door grills, and a red led fan in the side door. The keyboard also has red el wire under the keys
i also have a couple of tv cards, laptop dvd drive & ide adapter, 40gb 2.5" drive, network cards. umm what else...
Any offers?

Re: system update

Posted: June 3rd, 2005, 8:20
by Lateralus
ProfHawking wrote: 2x 512mb samsung ddr 400
40gb 2.5" drive
These would be useful for me, especially the RAM. How much would you want for them? Being a lowly student I'd probably be restricted to just one, so how much for just the RAM?

1GB RAM would really speed my system up. Let me have it cheap and I'll be your bitch!

/Grovel

Edit: is the HD only for notebooks/laptops? just noticed that its 2.5", would it work in a normal tower computer?

Posted: June 3rd, 2005, 8:57
by Woo Elephant Yeah
Out of interest ProfHawking, how much would you say your entire shuttle system would cost to build? The reason I ask is that Commrade Yannovski is thinking of getting a shuttle system in this thread

http://www.5punk.co.uk/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=923

Posted: June 3rd, 2005, 11:24
by ProfHawking
Dont make me do that! i try to ignore the cost!!!! it'll give me nightmares
Hmm lets see anyway..
shuttle £175
http://scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo. ... tID=156468
ram £58 x 2
http://www.crucial.com/uk/ballistix/sto ... BL6464Z402
x800 - £200
bought of a mate
raptor - £130
http://rlsupplies.co.uk/products/product.asp?id=654
250gb - £92
http://rlsupplies.co.uk/products/product.asp?id=659
cpu ~ £80
been a while since i checked what its worth
tv card - £65
http://rlsupplies.co.uk/products/product.asp?id=3877
dvdr - £35
http://rlsupplies.co.uk/products/product.asp?id=4717

so, just for the shuttle box, the grand total comes to... dah dah da daaaaa
£893

if you wanna include monitor, speakers, printer, prehipherals etc, proably add about £350 to that

ARGH my money is wasting away in a little silver box

anyway, my long winded advice to mr yannovski, probably is "if you can wait for crossfire boards & cards to be finished and can afford them when they come out, you will have a stonking machine, and it will be cheaper than buying a shuttle machine now and then throwing it out later. Shuttles can't be upgraded basically. If you buy an AGP one now, thats what you stick with."

There are on the horizon dual pci-x shuttles, with nvida sli. However nvidia sli, as far as im conserned is shite in comparison to crossfire, and no where near as flexible.
If you buy a stanard pci-x radeon now, when crossfire cards come out you can use your existing card with a new crossfire and it should work. (so says the rumors) but i'd wait for word from ati before you jump on that with lots of dosh.

Posted: June 3rd, 2005, 11:30
by ProfHawking
oh right, and yes forgot to price up the ram
lets see, seem to be selling for about £35-40 a stick, so how does both for £60 sound?
i'll cover postage

the hard drive is for laptops. it uses a smaller version of IDE with extra pins for power.
You could put it in a normal pc using a cable like this:
http://kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/info_5419.html

Posted: June 3rd, 2005, 16:50
by cashy
ooo
im guessing you meant a 'Chieftec Dragon case' and if so how much? is it the one with the side pannel window? aparently thats optional. looks very pretty. i shall begin the bartering with three groats

Posted: June 3rd, 2005, 18:12
by ProfHawking
im guessing you mean 'Three goats'. in which case are the lactating?
Anyway, ill be home in a couple of weeks where the case is, and be able to take pictures and such. Is that ok?
ill get in contact over xfire or msn or something.

Posted: June 3rd, 2005, 23:07
by cashy
ProfHawking wrote:im guessing you mean 'Three goats'. in which case are the lactating?
Anyway, ill be home in a couple of weeks where the case is, and be able to take pictures and such. Is that ok?
ill get in contact over xfire or msn or something.
this pleases me and my goats greatly. and no groats, ye olde english currency, back in some medieval period

Posted: June 6th, 2005, 22:39
by FatherJack
FatherJack wrote:512MB RAM, have about 4GB in the drawer but haven't been arsed to install it
Put in another 256MB, which has helped a lot with all the WoW plugins I've just discovered.

My Beastie

Posted: June 7th, 2005, 9:51
by TheJockGit
I've bought a new case and a 480W Tagan 2Force Power supply to power the following beastie:

Asus A8N-SLi Deluxe, ATX, Motherboard

AMD Athlon 64 3800 32/64Bit CPU S939 "Venice Core" PCU

Spanking brand new 250GB Caviar SE (7200rpm) SATA Drive

Nvidia 256MB XFX PCI-E 6800Ultra DDR3 Graphic Card

1 Gb (2 x 512 Mb) Corsair Value Select Kit, DDR, PC3200 RAM

Re: My Beastie

Posted: June 7th, 2005, 13:09
by Woo Elephant Yeah
TheJockGit wrote:I've bought a new case and a 480W Tagan 2Force Power supply to power the following beastie:

Asus A8N-SLi Deluxe, ATX, Motherboard

AMD Athlon 64 3800 32/64Bit CPU S939 "Venice Core" PCU

Spanking brand new 250GB Caviar SE (7200rpm) SATA Drive

Nvidia 256MB XFX PCI-E 6800Ultra DDR3 Graphic Card

1 Gb (2 x 512 Mb) Corsair Value Select Kit, DDR, PC3200 RAM
:shock: mmmmmmm, nice

If I had lots of spare money, I'd get THIS!

Posted: June 7th, 2005, 13:11
by Dr. kitteny berk
Big E-Penis going on there.

shame about the real one :P

Posted: June 7th, 2005, 16:55
by cashy
talking of ram, ive got one 256 stick and one 512 stick. think its about time i replaced the old 256 to make it dualistic

Big Rig

Posted: June 7th, 2005, 18:12
by TheJockGit
The problem is I spent so much doing up the new system, I ain't got enough cash left to buy the games I want :cry: Built it primerally to play HL2 and all the shiny mods that will come with it, also looking forward to being able to play BF2 when it arrives.. :D

Posted: June 7th, 2005, 19:39
by cashy
my parents bought a shitty time pc with onboard graphics and sound and 256ram. realy shite bog standard. only think i like is the amd atholon xp chip(running at 2164MHz).

so i put in a 9800 pro all in wonder £120(bout 100 now)
512 more crucial ram(2700) £30
a new (well old) dvd rewriter £free
old hdd 30gig (to add to the 70 already in) £free
sound blaster audigy live! card £25
4.1 surround off a mate £30
microsoft 5 button optical mouse for optimal ownage £5 (brand new few years back now, my mate sent one back broke so they sent him like 5 to replace it)
a fan to stop it overheating £4
oh and a PSU out of my old pc because it just recently fried it :P

now it runs games peice of pee, like hl2 gets fps of say 70-80 usualy, ive seen it go over 100 a few times on full res/details.
and it cost me to go from shite pc that refused to play hl1 to mega ph34rb0t centre:

£214

now thats gaming on a budget

better add 30quid onto that, just got another 512ram

Posted: June 10th, 2005, 15:00
by Lateralus
ProfHawking wrote:oh right, and yes forgot to price up the ram
lets see, seem to be selling for about £35-40 a stick, so how does both for £60 sound?
i'll cover postage
Sorry to have not replied earlier but I've been away for a week. If the offer is still open mate I'd like to take you up on it please. I'm away again over the weekend, but I'll get with you sometime next week to finalise it all.