5punk

Well that's pretty much what happens anyway; WEY puts an idea to the admins, we give him our opinions, if he thinks it's worth going ahead with he puts it to the members. Generally the members come up with good ideas to improve on whatever WEY's thought of. And then it goes in the WEY-ting list (see what I did there?) and re-emerges when he's got time to do it.

I can see the point about someone who's paid out for the site having the motivation to run it properly, and I'm glad we've had a few volunteers. Well done guys, and thanks. In return I'd say we support whoever does stump up the cash by not getting upset if they decide they want to cover their fees or make a little money by using some advertising. I think putting some on the arcade might be a good idea, as that likely has a lot of random visitors and could potentially be a bit of a money-spinner.

Dog Pants wrote:I can see the point about someone who's paid out for the site having the motivation to run it properly, and I'm glad we've had a few volunteers. Well done guys, and thanks. In return I'd say we support whoever does stump up the cash by not getting upset if they decide they want to cover their fees or make a little money by using some advertising. I think putting some on the arcade might be a good idea, as that likely has a lot of random visitors and could potentially be a bit of a money-spinner.

Maybe the arcade bit isnt a bad plan, but with my utter hatred of adverts, I would rather donate the full hosting fee to whoever gets the place to cover their fees than have even one advert sully my eyes.

Well this is certainly very sad news. WEY, I demand your presence as often as you can make it, and you’re not allowed to pull out of the CS:S tourney just because of this!

With regards to the site, my preferred option would be for a jointly raised collection of money to thank WEY for all his time and effort in bringing us together, then we decide together who can be our new Glorious Leader/Figurehead/Scapegoat. Once the person has taken charge then they need to be allowed to make changes as they see fit. A committee won’t work in the long-run, but 5punk has always been partially run by us all as a group anyway. The strategic stuff has usually been of WEY’s initiation, and the new leader needs to provide the steer to 5punk to keep it moving forward, but the day-to-day stuff (the "working-group" – spot the local government employee ) consists of mods and active members anyway.

With regards to ads, I don’t think 5punk has any potential as a commercial venture, and therefore wouldn’t be seen as an investment. However, the idea of ads on the arcade is certainly a good idea since a significant proportion of our visitors never post and primarily use that part of the site. Google-ads are far less obtrusive than big flash banners, which annoy me greatly. Money from ads can go straight towards hosting costs, and our leaving collection for WEY can come from donations. I know we all have very different quantities of “disposable income”, but without a doubt we could shake the tin and raise a decent amount between us all.

I think having someone buy the site for the sake of buying it but not actually want to take leadership defeats the purpose entirely. I think we should vote/choose our dictator and then let them get on with it. Decisions are mostly taken following a consensus being reached anyway, but the leader just has the power of veto. The fact that we quickly recovered from haxxors in WEY's absence shows that we are already resilient and that between us we can keep it moving, but I think its important to have an overall leader.

I have no idea if this even makes sense, and I've probably contradicted myself several times, but it's a bit of a brain-purge.

Joose wrote:Maybe the arcade bit isnt a bad plan, but with my utter hatred of adverts, I would rather donate the full hosting fee to whoever gets the place to cover their fees than have even one advert sully my eyes.

Why do you let any adverts sully your eyes? You must know there are ways to hide them if you choose to.

Having thought about this a bit more (and in a slightly more sober state of mind) I think that whoever runs 5punk, and I'm beginning to think that 1 overall 'owner' or 'overlord' is a good idea, should be decided on by the current Admins and WEY

If this person happens to be OK with paying then so much the better.

The admins do a really good job and the site is more than capable of ticking along with just them at the helm, however, I believe it would be much more beneficial to have 1 person in charge and whoever WEY and the admins choose is fine by me.

mrbobbins wrote:Having thought about this a bit more (and in a slightly more sober state of mind) I think that whoever runs 5punk, and I'm beginning to think that 1 overall 'owner' or 'overlord' is a good idea, should be decided on by the current Admins and WEY

If this person happens to be OK with paying then so much the better.

The admins do a really good job and the site is more than capable of ticking along with just them at the helm, however, I believe it would be much more beneficial to have 1 person in charge and whoever WEY and the admins choose is fine by me.

I agree with the single overlord, but I would rather have money raised as a group. If someone is selected as overlord, then they may feel that the onus is on them to cough up the cash, which may or may not be a problem. I for one would throw some pennies in the pot. I can't afford large or regular donations at the moment, but it would be terrible for 5punk to fade away and would definitely want to contribute what I can.

5punky Overlord ftw. I'd also quite happily throw some money into a pot as a huge thank you to Wey for setting this place up.

What Lat said, that clever little Nazi.

Lateralus wrote:definitely want to contribute what I can.

Yes this too, was meant to be part of my last post but dissapeard somewhere

WEY: At the end of the day it's your site so do the what the hell you like with it, you don't owe us, we owe you for the time and effort put it.

I can't believe with all this talk of Overlords that nobody has mentioned RO-BO.

Not even once...

After a million conversations with 5punkers last night, and sleeping on it, I think I've decided what's best for 5punk as a whole.

If someone thinks they would be capable of running the site, and wants to put the time and effort into continuing to make 5punk a great place to be, can you please PM me stating your intentions.

Once we have everyone who wants the job listed, I will discuss with the admins, and then make a poll for everyone to vote on who they would like to run the site. (Without a Deject's mom option, as I'm not sure she would want the job narf)

As for the money side of things, if people would like to donate me some money as a way of saying thank you, then it would be greatly appreciated, but please don't feel pressured to do so if you can't afford it.

As stated the cost of next years hosting would be transfered across to whoever ends up running 5punk, so no need to worry about any future costs for some time.

I think the .co.uk domain is up for renewal soonish, but it's only £15 squid or something from what I remember, so nothing too big moneywise.

This will hopefully enable the whole community to make the right decision, and I thank all of you who were brave enough to question the way I approached this, as like I said, I wasn't really sure how to approach this in the first place.

So there you have it, if you think you have what it takes to run 5punk and keep it heading in the right direction, then please PM me (remember this includes you admins as well) and I will make a list up by Friday evening.

A west country accent and an incredibly large penis isn't necessary, but it helps of course

Democracy at it's finest, RO-BO and Vladimir won't be happy!

Woo Elephant Yeah wrote:A west country accent and an incredibly large penis isn't necessary, but it helps of course

Must be talkin about us Merkins!

Hehe, nope. A "west country" accent in this case means people from Bristol westwards in the UK. Think of a UK country bumpkin, chewing on wheat and saying "ooh arh", only not like a pirate.

As far as 5punk goes, I agree with WEY's last post. Good call that man.

I agree wholehartedly with this as a way to go. Although I wont be putting myself forward to run the place (I dont want my first attempt at proper modding to be something as big or important as 5punk, just in case (as I suspect) the POWAR goes to my head), I will certainly be contributing money-wise to the upkeep of the place.

Joose wrote: 2)we have a voting thread

Shall we just cut that bit out now and hand the reins over to Deject's mother?

*late to the party*
So sad to hear you're leaving us WEY. I'd like to contribute money but I'm a dirty scrounger (Student), and they fact I've come so late to the party shows how inept I'd be as leader. But I feel your latest selection of an election of the new leader sounds best one by far. If I do win the lottery, I'll contribute as much as I possibly can*.

*Starts buying lottery tickets..

Hang on Westcountry accent.....that's me......from bristol......that's me.......big cock.....well 2 outta 3 aint bad! lol

Woo Elephant Yeah wrote:A west country accent and an incredibly large penis isn't necessary, but it helps of course

You called? *

For my penniesworth - I agree that the site couldn't / shouldn't be sold as a commercial opportunity. If ads started appearing subtley here and there I wouldn't rip out my eyes, but if side bars and headers with gimpy flash banners or bouncing gifs I'd build a trebuchet and aim for Bristol. Fairly large, fairly close target... However, like most I'll happily chuck a few pounds in the pot as a thank you for your time and effort WEY, 5punk has become my online home - even if google is still my homepage!

If we're talking about choosing someone to run the site, I suggest the kind of model Friz and I used for 2 years with great success in Eve (right up until my game playing petered out a couple of months ago) - you have two people who are God, with ultimate power, but shared between them. Both with a deal of common sense, command of the English language and a fondness for stupid humour - up to and including bumming as a salutation and ilovehorses as a national anthem (and for Pete a raison d'être)... Then you have a council of responsible people who can represent the populous. These are the guys to whom you go first to air ideas created at the top level and against whom you sound your silliness. Followed by ultimately truley democratic voting amongst the membership. By the time ideas are filtered by an equal, then a high level peergroup, the stupid ideas are mostly gone so the democratic voting is mostly for show as very rarely do votes go against you. Plus when you've argued your case twice, by the time you spin it out to the populous you already have a winning argument.

Think President / Vice President, then Chiefs of Staff, then Congress & Senate. The people being the 550 inactives, and just like in the states, their decisions are made for them by their betters!

Can I nominate Friz for President please?



* May be 100% of fact...

i haven't read through all of these so i don't know everything going on but i ust saw a commercial for godaddy.com and make websites through them

Dolly Parton wrote:i haven't read through all of these so i don't know everything going on but i ust saw a commercial for godaddy.com and make websites through them

um... yeah...