I noticed that you're gangster. I'm pretty gangster myself.

Post by **TezzRexx** » March 11th, 2009, 0:25

Wrong. Bacon is king.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 11th, 2009, 0:31

Pete makes a good point, Bacon is fucking great as an every day type meat product, but if I want a treat, I'll just buy as much good steak as I can afford, wipe the blood off and walk past the grill with it.

Post by **FatherJack** » March 11th, 2009, 0:52

Treat meat is bambi, for me. Although I had some class bacon at the weekend - had brown sugary stuff all down the outside and was (quite literally) sweet. Keep meaning to swag me some Kobe or Wagyu though, I do like the beefs, but think I overdid it for a spell.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 11th, 2009, 0:55

FatherJack wrote:Treat meat is bambi, for me. Although I had some class bacon at the weekend - had brown sugary stuff all down the outside and was (quite literally) sweet. Keep meaning to swag me some Kobe or Wagyu though, I do like the beefs, but think I overdid it for a spell.

I do like a bit of bambi, but It's not particularly easy to get around here.

Nice high end beef is nice, but I dunno, kinda a waste for me I think because I'm so lazy about cooking it.

Post by **HereComesPete** » March 11th, 2009, 0:59

Kobe-style Wagyu apparently isn't as good as the actual Japanese stuff. A lot of places say it's Kobe but it's Kobe black bull bred with Aberdeen Angus cow for more meat per carcass, and they tend to feed them spent grain instead of beer and high quality grain like the Japanese do. The slow grow marbling effect does look good though.

The highest quality Wagyu (probably Mishima) looks quite salmon coloured, I've never tasted it but I would order some fresh kill pure-bred stuff from Japan if I had the large amounts of money needed to do so.

editz - Also bambi is damn tasty. Bloody filling too given how low it is in fat.

Bestest treat meat for me is probably duck or wood pigeon. Heavy rich sauces and far more portion than restaurants serve, all warm and bleeding.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 11th, 2009, 1:03

...

Wait.

How the fuck did this turn into a food thread?

Post by **HereComesPete** » March 11th, 2009, 1:06

I blame you.

Should probably split this and dump it in geekfood.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 11th, 2009, 1:10

HereComesPete wrote:I blame you.

Should probably split this and dump it in geekfood.

We still have no merge button.

I wonder if it might be worth lobbing foody stuff into entertainment, rather than general?

Post by **HereComesPete** » March 11th, 2009, 1:17

Cookin are seeryus biznuss!

on the merge button, I keep forgetting that. Given it's due with shineh new shineh then I guess we can attempt to remember to do it then.

I think it's fine in general. Although I'm waiting on the new look before any serious shuffing occurs. Such as doing Lat's job and cleaning up entertainment a bit.

Yeah you heard me Lat, now stop being educated and bossed about by your missus and get playing games!

Post by **FatherJack** » March 11th, 2009, 1:18

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:I wonder if it might be worth lobbing foody stuff into entertainment, rather than general?

Not really in the brief, but a lot of cookery chat falls within the TV domain. Mod-wise, Pete's probably more of a cun^H culinary person than the General mods.

buzzmong · Post by **buzzmong** » March 11th, 2009, 1:19

On the mention of venison, and having a think about it, I don't think I've ever had any. Same goes for Pheasant and Rabbit.

Post by **FatherJack** » March 11th, 2009, 1:21

Pheasant's rather yum, I had it at the weekend, although I bought roughly twice what was sensible (it's rather rich). Rabbit's okay in a stew, I guess.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 11th, 2009, 1:24

buzzmong wrote:On the mention of venison, and having a think about it, I don't think I've ever had any. Same goes for Pheasant and Rabbit.

I don't think I've had pheasant, but bambi is always nice, I like bunny occasionally, but it's not something I eat a lot.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 11th, 2009, 1:26

FatherJack wrote: Not really in the brief, but a lot of cookery chat falls within the TV domain. Mod-wise, Pete's probably more of a cun^H culinary person than the General mods.

food stuff is a weird one, It's a strangely big part of 5punk, but also kinda homeless, some of it fits in entertainment, but not all of it.

Post by **FatherJack** » March 11th, 2009, 1:28

Perhaps I should concoct a Thumper+Bambi combo to wow* the ladies.

*dismay irrevocably

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 11th, 2009, 1:31

You should

Post by **HereComesPete** » March 11th, 2009, 1:47

I guess how much chef wank it involves tends to make it flicker between the categories.

General everday tasty is general. But a top notch all day in the kitchen effort is entertainment, mostly for the people who eat it as opposed to cook it mind.

Rabbit is good for a slow cook to break down the sinew. Excellent taste when cooked well. Cheap if you can go out and shoot your own. Regarded as pet, gypsy food and as the bumbling blinded myxy creatures by many it's been knocked for years. Best way to get nice rabbit is of course buy some, feed them well, get them fat then wring their necks.

Pheasant is rich, one of those ones where you look at the portions served up by Ramsay et al and think 'is that it' but it does fill you faster than it really should. Bloody tasty.

Venison isn't one for those who ask for everything over-cooked (to my mind anything more than medium rare) because it goes dry and bland very quickly if it's done like that.

Duck suffers from overcooking too, more of a flavour intensification that your mouth can't get itself around and thus fails at tasting.

Shame that a lot of people just can't get hold of game other than supermarkets or t'internet. I'm very lucky to be surrounded by high quality game butchers and their stock is excellent. Everything from antelope to yak (no zebra yet, but I'd guess like horse, which is mediocre) and good prices too.

A bambi and thumper stew would taste great! plenty of vino and stock veg. Try serving it with celeriac and caramelised onion mash and a beetroot foam. Damn, I've made myself really really hungy now.

Editz - If I ever went back to cheffing I would definitely put Bambi and Thumper stew on the menu. It would taste great and sell well with a name like that. Possibly even get young kids out to shock interested in game, which is always good.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 11th, 2009, 1:53

HereComesPete wrote:A bambi and thumper stew would taste great! plenty of vino and stock veg. Try serving it with celeriac and caramelised onion mash and a beetroot foam. Damn, I've made myself really really hungy now.

cupcake.

Makro tomorrow I think, might have to pick some bambi up.

Post by **HereComesPete** » March 11th, 2009, 1:55

I'm off the butchers again tomorrow. Think another calves liver and chocolate chilli will be made. And now we've got started on game I think I'll take the chance to grab some of the last stocks of fresh wild venison. Seasons nearly over on it now.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 11th, 2009, 1:56

I hate you.