LCD TV

Post by **Dog Pants** » November 27th, 2007, 22:08

Thanks for pointing that out Lee, I'll make sure to add an HDMI cable to my order.

Post by **HereComesPete** » November 28th, 2007, 0:53

Lee wrote:...turns out it doesn't come with an HDMI cable and you need one for the upscaling. Seems weird not including one...

Nah, back in the day yes, but now it allows manufacturers to save monies, and retailers to make more profit selling extras. You'd struggle to get a camera with a free mem card now unless it's a deal, they like to make you pay for it.

Lee · Post by **Lee** » December 7th, 2007, 19:42

I forgot to report back on the upscaleyness. It works extremely well on proper DVDs like lotr and star wars but seems pretty dependant on the quality of the source, swept stuff doesn't usually look that great since it emphasises the compression.

Post by **Dog Pants** » December 7th, 2007, 19:54

That's good, all my DVDs are originals. I've got the player but Play are being utter shite with the order for my TV.

Post by **HereComesPete** » December 7th, 2007, 19:56

Buy it from dixons currys.digital!

Post by **Dog Pants** » December 7th, 2007, 19:59

If it hasn't been dispatched by tomorrow I probably will.

Post by **HereComesPete** » December 7th, 2007, 20:07

The tv, stand, surround sound deal is on, but the stands are a bit shit imo, I do also hate Polish pallet stackers and southern delivery drivers, but that's another story.

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » December 7th, 2007, 20:28

That reminds me, my new TV is great.

37" is just right. The 360 looks superb, although the TV only accepts 1080p via HDMI and my non-elite 360 wont allow that. So I'm stuck on just 720p. Also the Wii looks significantly sharper using a component cable. TV doesn't look that great with a SD signal but it's still bigger and brighter than it was before.

Post by **HereComesPete** » December 7th, 2007, 20:33

The new 360's are hdmi without being the l33t, just put a pen in your cooling fan, you'll find that if they try and repair it under warranty, it'll keep failing, whilst this an embuggerance with the sending off and the waiting, you will eventually get a new hdmi one.*

*it worked for a mate of mine, but he did have to send his off 6 times.

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » December 7th, 2007, 20:41

Now you mention it I think Duke of Ted's new replacement is HDMI. Well my one is making some nasty noises when I put in the Mass Effect disk so it may soon be that time for my console. I just hope it lasts to the end of that game.

Woo Elephant Yeah · Post by **Woo Elephant Yeah** » December 11th, 2007, 17:24

Extremely late, but Panasonic PLASMAAAAAAA*

Absolutely everyone I have recommended buying one has ended up being extremely pleased with it.

http://www.121electricals.com/store.asp/c=181 are usually the cheapest place to buy one, but seeing as you have made your decision, it's a bit pointless now.

By the way, what was the reason you chose LCD over Plasma?

*panasonic fanboy

Post by **HereComesPete** » December 11th, 2007, 17:31

I'd always go lcd over plasma. You can't lie plasma tv's on their side, you can't push them round the room then turn them on again, you get less viewing angle, you can't hang them above the fire/other heat source, they weigh more and they die faster, I can probably thing of more reasons why I'd always have lcd over plasma, but that'll do for now.

All the cant's above can of course be done, but will fuck up your warranty and your tv.

Woo Elephant Yeah · Post by **Woo Elephant Yeah** » December 11th, 2007, 17:35

HereComesPete wrote:I'd always go lcd over plasma. You can't lie plasma tv's on their side, you can't push them round the room then turn them on again, you get less viewing angle, you can't hang them above the fire/other heat source, they weigh more and they die faster, I can probably thing of more reasons why I'd always have lcd over plasma, but that'll do for now.

All the cant's above can of course be done, but will fuck up your warranty and your tv.

Never really thought of it like that, mine just sits in the corner of the room on a pedestal on top a corner unit, and it's pretty much viewable from any angle narf.

It is bloody heavy mind you, was a bit fun when we moved house, and it was on the back seat of my car with a friend holding onto it for dear life.

Post by **HereComesPete** » December 11th, 2007, 17:51

To be fair, it is a rather good tv, panasonic always make good tv's, just that they cost a lot. Plasma can offer a very vibrant colour mix, a lot of lcds, especially cheaper ones, really look washed out when they're not surrounded by other massive tv's in a poorly lit shop.

Plasma has also got a lot better in response to lcd, it's viewing angles and pixellation has increased/decreased respectively and it's aversion to heat sources is less. I still have to advise fools picking tv's up from currys that they can't lie the plasma down without voiding their manufacturers extended warranty.

Today I got a guy picking up a black glass stand, a surround sound kit and a 46" plasma samsung, and he arrived in a toyota mr2, the cupcake.

Post by **Dog Pants** » December 12th, 2007, 17:13

Fuck yeah! My new TV arrived this afternoon and it's amazing.

1. It's bloody huge (compared to my old telly)
2. The black is extremely black. I can't tell the difference between off and a black screen (the menu background is black, y'see).
3. Normal telly looks really good.
4. DVDs look really good.

Next I tried my new DVD player Vs my old one.

1. I can really tell the difference between tellys now.
2. I'm not sure I can tell the difference between regular DVD and upscaled.

I took pictures of both, but I've lost my cable for my camera. I'll work it out eventually.

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » December 12th, 2007, 19:40

Dog Pants wrote:2. The black is extremely black. I can't tell the difference between off and a black screen (the menu background is black, y'see).

This impressed me as well. It becomes evident that the CRT black is sort of dark grey-ish.

Post by **HereComesPete** » December 12th, 2007, 21:48

Seem to recall that's because they are never really showing black and the light bleeds through from the crt. Where as the per pixel effect of lcd tv's allows for a lot less light to be shining through in the dark bits because it's actively trying to be as dark as possible when necessary, as opposed to passive like on a crt.

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » December 12th, 2007, 22:16

HereComesPete wrote:Seem to recall that's because they are never really showing black and the light bleeds through from the crt. Where as the per pixel effect of lcd tv's allows for a lot less light to be shining through in the dark bits because it's actively trying to be as dark as possible when necessary, as opposed to passive like on a crt.

Thanks Professor Television!
How do I complete the 4th level of the menu screen? I'm stuck on the AV source boss, what contrast level do I need to defeat him?

Post by **HereComesPete** » December 12th, 2007, 22:35

Well there's no need to be rude! I just thought you may not know, and that you might like to. Maybe someone with their sarcasm not turned to 11 might actually read that and learn something, or maybe I'm wrong, and someone will correct me, and I'll learn something, I don't claim to be a professor, as they are defined as 'a person who professes to be an expert in an art or science, teacher of the highest rank', and I made no such claim. And you need a contrast of 42.

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » December 12th, 2007, 22:43

HereComesPete wrote:And you need a contrast of 42.

I do have a basic understanding of how these TVs work but you're right; it's useful information.