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Posted: November 28th, 2007, 18:42
by Chickenz
GET A CORE2DUO THEY SPANK AMD, GET NVIDIA THEY SPANK ATI

LISTEN TO BERK, OUT OF EVERYONE HERE HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT THE MOST!!!!!


WE RIP THE PISS OUT OF KV FOR BEING A TARD FANBOI!!!! (jokingly of course, pure banter)

YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH CHOOSING AND STICKING WITH A PARTICULAR COMPANY, THAT TIME HAS PASSED!!

GET AS FAST AS YOU CAN AFFORD


INTEL AND NVIDIA

Posted: November 28th, 2007, 18:44
by HereComesPete
Your only harming your wallet and your gaming experience with your need for amd, they are new and shit or good but old tech atm. But it's your choice. And ignore chicken, we mean what we say about KV and his radeon.

Posted: November 28th, 2007, 18:47
by Dog Pants
Dr. kitteny berk wrote: GPU:7900GT or X19x0 (~£80)
I'm running a 7900GT at the moment (well, not right this moment because my desktop PC died, but you know what I mean), and it runs anything I throw at it with no problems at all. That includes Stalker, Bioshock, COD4, Oblivion, SOUP, whatever. I'm really happy with it.

Posted: November 28th, 2007, 18:48
by Dr. kitteny berk
Here's an idea.

Buy the machine I posted, with chicken's CPU (which admittedly, isn't great, but is very nearly as fast as an amd 6000+ for £30)

Then use the money you saved to buy a decent HDD, and the money you'll save in future (by not having to replace the cpu and mobo by june) to buy a new optical drive.

Posted: November 28th, 2007, 20:14
by deject
is that 80 squid including VAT or no?

http://www.ebuyer.com/cat/Graphics-Card ... 800-Series

either of these would be much better, but they're a tad over 100 quid w/ VAT

Posted: November 28th, 2007, 23:04
by Hehulk
Alcomahol make me so much more agreeable. Ok, let me see about something for 10 mins, and I may want that CPU of yours chicken

Posted: December 4th, 2007, 15:58
by Hehulk
So, all my parts arrived, I riped the box, went oooh, shiny, then starting putting it al together. Now, I've tried boosting it up a few times (normal and safe mode) and it BSODd when it got to loading windows. Tried reinstalling and it BSODd again, but this time I got an error cord (0x0000007b) which the MS database tells me means the boot device is inaccessable.

Anyone got any suggestions?

Posted: December 4th, 2007, 16:03
by Dr. kitteny berk
Hmm.

That's usually an error when trying to load up a windows install from another mobo.

I'd suggest formatting your drive if you can. otherwise can you try installing onto another HDD? sometimes weird things happen.

edit:
oooor. could it be that the windows installer can't talk to your sata controllers?

what HDD are you trying to install onto?

have you tried the sata drivers on a floppy and hammering F6?

have you tried resetting the bios?

Posted: December 4th, 2007, 16:26
by deject
Dr. kitteny berk wrote:edit:
oooor. could it be that the windows installer can't talk to your sata controllers?

what HDD are you trying to install onto?

have you tried the sata drivers on a floppy and hammering F6?

have you tried resetting the bios?
:above: my guess as well. there should be some way to do it without F6 drivers, but it probably requires using a different SATA port.

Posted: December 4th, 2007, 16:28
by buzzmong
Leading on:

Have you fettled the bios and checked that the SATA controllers are enabled?

Likewise for IDE.

Posted: December 4th, 2007, 16:30
by Dr. kitteny berk
deject wrote: :above: my guess as well. there should be some way to do it without F6 drivers, but it probably requires using a different SATA port.
:above:

or, www.driverpacks.net (tutorial) and joy.

Posted: December 4th, 2007, 16:36
by Hehulk
I'm using an IDE drive. It's not my usual install one as when I saw the BSOD properly the first time it said about drives so I swaped it. Bios is reading the drive is there, what else do I need to double check? and can't reinstall, I get the same error code on a drive with no install on it.

EDIT: Hang on, you've given me an idea berk

*commences digging about for original win Xp disk that hasn't been slipstreamed with mobo drivers

Posted: December 4th, 2007, 16:48
by Dr. kitteny berk
Another thing to try could be This*

I honestly have no idea how well it'd work, and I'd keep it as a last option, but still.


*there's a fair chance that this could fuck up critically.

Posted: December 4th, 2007, 19:20
by HereComesPete
:above: That does look useful, but last option. I take it's all set up in bios to look at the correct drive first? master and slave drives the right way etc etc.

Posted: December 4th, 2007, 21:03
by Hehulk
Universe hates me today and has a sadistic way of showing it.

So, I figured I'd trip the motherboard drivers out of the slipstreamed version of windows I do have to hand, but Nlite was being a picky bastard because my familes machine isn't well looked after and doesn't have service pack 2. So, 2 hours downloading and installing, that's done. Now it's still complaining but that it might be because they've not run windows update in about a year and the site is just sat there scaning for updates while nlite still refuses to run.

And no joy finding the original XP disk, so I can't start from scratch. Sure my brother will know it's where-abouts, but he's vanished and we've no idea if he's even comming home today. If he doesn't, I'll try that method you found Berk and pray

And yes, Bios appears to be set-up right

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 3:23
by Hehulk
Dr. kitteny berk wrote:This
Can't see how that would be relevant, given that I'm getting this issue with hard drives that don't have any IDE drivers installed (Trying to use my storage drive for a base install)

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 5:23
by Dr. kitteny berk
nor can I, but it was another option to put in there.


Just to be clear, you're using a PATA hdd on a PATA cable?

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 10:53
by FatherJack
I think you need a clean XP disk, I can PM you a link to one if you don't mind the download.

I've never managed to build a stable machine from upgrade or OEM CD with Windows of any flavour, and only reinstall when it's the same hardware. I'd stick your data somewhere safe on a another disk, format one and install, then put the other disk in once it's working.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 11:00
by Dr. kitteny berk
he should have a fairly clean (sp2 only) disk by now. dunno if that failed though.

Posted: December 5th, 2007, 12:38
by Hehulk
Sadly didn't work. I'll try copying the data off of one drive onto the family PC, reformating, then installing.