5punkyBEEF Server

[buzzmong]

Oh Using raw input normally solves lots of things.

[HereComesPete]

It's called recon but the nods to that are shit gadgets and the mav (which is mainly fun for titting about with, can't score many points with it generally).

- The huge size and incessant beep of the spawn beacon means it's a camping cunts wet dream, they can sit next to it with a shotgun and take a squad out before anyone realises, then shoot it for 20 points.
- The motion scanner scans about the same area as you can knife someone in and sticks out like the robot dick that it is. 20 more easy enemy equipment destroyed points right there.
- SOFLAM, this is kind of useful in a few big conquest maps if you have very co-operative team mates. The rest of the time it's fucking useless. 20 more easy points.
- Claymore, C4 and mortar given to support, I get the mortar moving class. But claymores and C4? Recon and Assault should have those.

The guns say sniper, the wookie robes say sniper. You want to play recon then you can do this just fine with assault or support packing a suppressed ump and you can float round the edges of the conflict reaping any stragglers and spotting things before they hit your team.

You want to play sniper you take the recon class, equip the sniper/marksman rifles and sit around the edges of the fight paying scant heed to the actual ebb and flow of battle whilst in search of the next cranium to ventilate. More people will bad mouth snipers because even the good players have been pushed out to the margins by the choices of what each class has.

I used to love playing recon, especially in bacons, where a rex and a shotty meant I could ninja wookie the fuck out the enemy whilst actually providing useful support against vehicles and such. Now its just a bit shit.

/rant.

[Dog Pants]

The motion scanner is a huge disappointment after the sensory balls of BACON. Even the sensory balls weren't hugely useful because they didn't last long and you only had a few, so I don't see why they nerfed them. However, the motion willies are persistent so arguably are more useful for a sniper to cover an approach to their snipey spot. The mobile respawn would also be far more useful if you didn't have to place them on snooker table flat surfaces. If you could stash them about they would be a lot more useful, although they're not completely useless as is.

The thing is, Recon's lack of popularity can only be down to the rifles. Most people (which excludes good Recon players) never used the sensory balls in BACON, they just sniped, and they did it a lot. Taking the lowest common denominator as the majority, the only reason they play Recon is to snipe, so if they're avoiding it then it's obviously not satisfying their epeen. Hopefully all balancing issues which will come out in time.

[Roman Totale]

I haven't played recon much, yet according to the platoon stats page I'm top recon.

I think it might be a bit broken.

[Dog Pants]

Well the only reason I'm top assault on 949 points/min is because my mag ran out as engineer so I picked up MJ's kit, shot some cupcake with it, then grabbed mine again and reloaded. It's the only time I've ever played assault.

[buzzmong]

I'm still pondering how it's possible to get nearly 1000 points per minute on average like you've got Doggers.
Crazy.

[Dr. kitteny berk]

origin b gon!

http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/10369 ... eds-a-tear

[Dog Pants]

Knowing EA's EULA I wouldn't risk this myself. I'd love to get rid of another piece of bloatware, but not at the expense of my game account.

[Dr. kitteny berk]

Knowing EA's EULA I wouldn't risk this myself. I'd love to get rid of another piece of bloatware, but not at the expense of my game account.

[buzzmong]

^^ I wouldn't be too surprised if a CRC check for the main .exe gets introduced in the next patch.

Although the fact it's been cracked within a week or so means that the decision for BF3 to be bolted onto Origin is probably an afterthought and not actually deep in the code. It should mean that there's the possiblity that DICE can either patch out Origin at a later date (which would be win, but probably won't happen until at least Return to Karkland hits), or that a Steam version (sans Origin) might become available.

Personally, it came on Steam sans Origin, I'd probably buy it again as I really don't want to use Origin.

[Thompy]

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What the hell is extended persistence supposed to mean?

[HereComesPete]

Instead of poking someone for ten minutes, you poke them for a hour whist saying 'huh' each time you poke.

[buzzmong]

Either way I am NorfGaz. Hope I can fucking change that.

http://www.origin.com/uk/change-id

Just bumping this as Anery seems to have missed it.

[Jimmington]

Well that was embarassing the other night...
You find a server where the admin kindly moves the players over so everyone is happy, and then a team loses, and they all run off with the hump!
To be fair in their defence there seemed to be some confusion regarding evening up the sides between them some thinking it was clan v clan and some thinking just having all mates on one side but keeping it balanced by nabbing a few 5punkees. Anway no harm done and i guess it gave you a giggle.

To the game itself - I am enjoying it more than initial thoughts would indicate, however I do agree with the general feeling on Recon - it is basically gash in terms of doing anything remotely sneaky. I have had varying forms of success with the Shotty, but not a lot else, and Donald Duck knows why there is no C4 or clays. Surely if support have them they can just spam the crap out of choke points by rearming themselves. I have noticed some good squad play, even on random hook ups which is a good sign. Will get a few more hours on it, but i am not sensing a 400 hour BF2 rival at the moment.

Your server... Odd one really, not sure why it is not filling up; at one point there was chunky number on there - maybe people are scared by the no regen, i noticed it got a murmour when i mentioned it, and then when it swapped from Conq to Rush previously, I know that got some grumbling as well. I guess it depends on how you want to play it - after a while a pattern emerges of the most popular maps so you can hone the rotation, or you keep it as is and have it how you want it to be.

Anyway enough waffle, well played, and I look forward to an extended go again next week.

[Dog Pants]

I did wonder if your guys just meant they all wanted to be on the same team, but someone did ask and there were no complaints so I assumed it was how they wanted it. Never mind, they're always welcome back but bear in mind while we might play an 'us vs them' for a bit of fun we're in no way competitive.

I suspect the server not filling up is as likely a product of the server browser filters as anything - we just can't hit that break point where ransoms will consider it full enough to join. Good feedback though, worth taking on board. The mixed mode thing I can see putting people off as people often have a very specific idea of what they want to play. I'm surprised at no regen causing concern though - previously if you wanted health regen you played CoD, and it makes engineers and assault less useful. What does everyone else think?

[buzzmong]

Shame about the PCG boys though, I did ask them after Pants did the jiggling and no-one said anything. They should have spoken up in the chat box.


I personally dislike Rush on BF3 (not because it's a bad mode per se but because DICE screwed up and put the two mcom points too close to each other in all the maps) so I'm *very* much in favour of a mixed mode server for the added flavour, my BC2 list is pretty much made up of them.

As for health regen, I prefer having it off. Makes medics more useful and combat more fun.

I suspect the reason why the server doesn't seem popular is because we're still in the first few weeks of the game and there's an absolute glut of servers. Once we roll over 4 weeks and then 3 months, you'll probably find the server list gets a fair bit smaller and hopefully should mean we get players on it.

[Dog Pants]

Hopefully a few more 5punkers will pick the game up to get it started too, although we're managing 8 on friday nights as we are.

[Roman Totale]

Not sure what it's lie for engineers, but no regen doesn't make much difference for medics on the smaller maps - there's rarely enough time for someone to sit and heal themselves back up.

I've just filtered all the servers for ones with "regen" in the name, and it would appear that there are only 3 in the world, including ours, that have regen turned off. Perhaps Hardcore servers are the preference for people who normally have it turned off.

[Thompy]

Hmm, goes to show how much of a minority vocal minorities can be. Regen was one of the biggest forum complaints pre-launch. But an issue with no regen for the average player is it means they have to rely on their squad/team, which on a random server is not a bet you want to make. Regen takes quite a while anyway, so medics/engineers are still useful.

Personally I've taken to checking the "normal" felcher box, as I kept joining hardcore/custom servers by accident and mowing down half my team or found health limited to 60% etc. I'd guess a lot of people do that too and therefore we don't show up to them.

[Dog Pants]

I'll set it back to normal then, we can see how that goes for a bit.