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Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 14:48
by mrbobbins
northwesten wrote:least i dont have p[roblem with BF2142 :)
Except that no-one plays it

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 14:52
by Lateralus
friznit wrote: Can you recommend a driver cleaner?
www.drivercleaner.net as hosted by Bobbins is pretty good.

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 15:10
by mrbobbins
Lateralus wrote:
www.drivercleaner.net as hosted by Bobbins is pretty good.
:above: Guaranteed to clean every last bit of manure out the system

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 15:12
by northwesten
mrbobbins wrote:
Except that no-one plays it
yer that sucks :(

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 15:16
by MrGreen
northwesten wrote:
yer it sucks :(
Fix'd.

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 15:32
by Dr. kitteny berk
Lateralus wrote:
http://hairy-arse.com/Driver Cleaner.NET.rar as hosted by Bobbins is pretty good.
url fix'd for proper :sweep:

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 15:55
by friznit
Odd. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but whenever I click on that link I get taken to some odd site to do with toy horses.

Also: cupcake

Also: I'm using 158.19 at the mo. Will try updatermerating to 158.22 and let you know if it makes fuck all difference.

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 16:21
by Dr. kitteny berk
if you copy that link, it'll work.

but horsing is good too :)

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 16:35
by FatherJack
Nvidia drivers should be removed completely before reinstalling new ones. I'm told bits even stay around after a Control Panel uninstall, and was recommended the driver cleaner thingy. Unfortunately having an nVidia motherboard it also removes the network, on-board sound, RAID and mobo drivers at the same time, which is a PitA.

Trying to find out what board drivers, nVTune and all the rest were current at the time of graphics driver X is next to impossible, but most have issues with a GPU driver rev that isn't compatible - so you're stuck with manual BIOS tuning and have to do your own stability tests.

I got tired of the shag and just used the graphic driver uninstall, so it wasn't technically clean. In the end I decided I just wanted the option to have the "latest of everything" and with the current XP+8800 mess only Fista gives me that choice.

I too have selected more conservative memory timings, makes next-to-no difference in benchmarks - so the only difference (apart from the fuck-off huge hole in my wallet) is that I'll probably be able to use this memory for my next few machines.

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 16:40
by Lateralus
No-one ever suspects... :)

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 16:54
by Dr. kitteny berk
FatherJack wrote:Nvidia drivers should be removed completely before reinstalling new ones. I'm told bits even stay around after a Control Panel uninstall, and was recommended the driver cleaner thingy.


All of that :above:

</Best Practice>Personally, the only time I do anything like a clean install is when I have problems, Otherwise I just install drivers over drivers. with no issues. <Best Practice>
FatherJack wrote:Unfortunately having an nVidia motherboard it also removes the network, on-board sound, RAID and mobo drivers at the same time, which is a PitA.


The newer Drivercleaner (as in my horse link) lets you remove bits separately. which is nice

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 17:31
by northwesten
friznit wrote:Odd. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong but whenever I click on that link I get taken to some odd site to do with toy horses.

Also: berk

Also: I'm using 158.19 at the mo. Will try updatermerating to 158.22 and let you know if it makes fuck all difference.
My ears are bleeding! I still clicked on that dam link and I forgot my speaker are up on my powerful Hi-Fi so i think with the Windows wide open the whole Village heared my song :oops:

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 22:18
by mrbobbins
I appear to have fixed my issues (Remember not just beef related, I was only able to Run Orthos for about 10 mins before crashing)

Lowering my RAM latency (Speed is still the same) sorted it out and I just played many rounds of beef without a single crash whereas before it would crash every single time within 5 mins.

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 22:23
by Dr. kitteny berk
I'd certainly suggest running it through memtest a few times.

ISTR 680i works best with a ram voltage around 2.1 (any higher than that and RMA:ENGAGE after a month or so)

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 22:25
by deject
mrbobbins wrote:Lowering my RAM latency (Speed is still the same) sorted it out and I just played many rounds of beef without a single crash whereas before it would crash every single time within 5 mins.
do you mean actually lowering the numbers (5 -> 4) or slowing them down (4 -> 5)?

if you did the former, it'd be rather odd that it made your PC more stable...

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 22:51
by mrbobbins
Lowering the speed I guess, so increasing the numbers 4 to 5 etc. it's still running at 800mhz

Planning to leave memtest on while I'm at work tomorrow.

Also will remember to manually set voltage (Which I planned but forgot :lol: )

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 22:57
by Dr. kitteny berk
:lol:

Apparently to fix my beef, I had to reinstall it. Twice.

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 23:50
by deject
Dr. kitteny berk wrote::lol:

Apparently to fix my beef, I had to reinstall it. Twice.
reinstall it in the butt?

Posted: July 3rd, 2007, 23:51
by Dr. kitteny berk
Nope.

Posted: July 4th, 2007, 6:43
by northwesten
deject wrote:
reinstall it in the butt?
what like this?

Restalling the buttt