5punk

Well I've hardly given it a fair chance yet, but I found it pretty frustrating for the 10 mins I played. Couldn't figure out how to choose weapons when first joining properly, much less change kit before repawns. I barely saw any of the other team, and seemed to just fall over dead at random moments. I think I need to play with 5punkers.

I'd suggest starting a local server and having a run around to get the hang of it.

it's , to change class and . to change team, btw.

Yeah, that's probably the best idea. Cheers for the tips too. Might see if I can get time to have another blast tonight.

Expect to die lots too.

one or two bullets will usually kill you, so it's very much a game of sneaking and reflexes with just a splattering of tactically running like fuck and hoping to survive.

Yeah, I've got the hang of dying lots already. I think I read that they're using ricochets in the mod, so I expect slinger can already kill people around several corners in John Virgo stylee.

I don't like it.

It all looks very nice but it's one of these games that adds "realism" by crippling the player. Where's the fun in that? How about some positive sides of this "realism", rather than just making things harder. I don't know what these positives could be but I'm not the game developer.

spoodie wrote:How about some positive sides of this "realism", rather than just making things harder.

By making stuff harder, they make it easier, It's not like it's only you who dies from one burst to the chest.

Fact is, if you get a good spot you can slaughter anyone who goes past. 60 points in a round is doable

Certainly, it's not gonna be to everyone's taste, but it's something new, interesting, and rather pretty

edit: oh, if anyone gets chance, jump on the 5punky server to get it started

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:By making stuff harder, they make it easier, It's not like it's only you who dies from one burst to the chest.

Dying doesn't bother me and I didn't do much of it in the brief game I played. Mostly because didn't see many people even though there was plenty on the server. What I was complaining about was things like having to stand still to reload (the RPG does this, not sure about other weapons).

I guess I'm just not cut-out for these "realistic" games. I can't stand the operation flashpoints.

At least on public servers, I tend to prefer the "jump around while firing off 100 rounds and taking a rocket on the chin"-type games, simply because they're more fun. Realistic games mean you rarely get to see your attacker before it's too late, and therefore encourage tactics like sniping and hiding which while true-to-life, are overly effective and boring for everyone else.

Because it's a pragmatic tactic, we're not supposed to call it "camping" anymore, but that's what it is.

Luckily with 5punkers we tend to play any time of game in a more gung-ho fashion, and anyone standing around or hiding quickly gets told not to be a prick. I know it's not representational, and that in real life terrorists trapped in a building would not get much public sympathy by claiming the police were "spawn-raping" them, but it's better fun, win or lose.

With a group of us on I reckon we could have more fun, but with a bunch of random other people it quickly annoys me, just like every other game really.

FatherJack wrote:
Because it's a pragmatic tactic, we're not supposed to call it "camping" anymore, but that's what it is.

Tactically waiting patiently damnit!

/Chickenz

Beta 1 to Beta 1.1 Patch

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Beta 1.1 Changelog

    * Added:Added server-side cvars "tkremove" and "tkdetect" to help deal with team killers
    * Added cvar "ins_dmgfactor"
    * Added super-sonic bullet whiz effect
    * Added incremental weapon sway when low on stamina
    * Added hint reminding you of alternate stance modes
    * Added weapon slot keys

      Changed:
    * Changed "sv_alltalk" to default to "0"
    * Increased rate of fire of M249 to be that of its real life counterpart
    * Replaced round-restart commands with "ins_restart_game" and "ins_restart_round"
    * Renamed server-side cvar "ins_endtime" to "mp_chattime"
    * Renamed server-side cvar "ins_friendlyfire" to "mp_friendlyfire"

      Fixed:
    * Fixed attacking with grenades while sprinting
    * Fixed bipod view locking issues while moving in prone
    * Fixed exploit allowing people to finish reloading their weapon at abnormally fast speeds
    * Fixed exploit allowing people to go from standing to prone super fast
    * Fixed explosions recording deaths as suicides
    * Fixed iron sights twitching under lag
    * Fixed pausing of automatic sounds
    * Fixed people being unable to use grenade if attacking while going prone
    * Fixed players automatically spawning when they enter the server
    * Fixed reloading with M249
    * Fixed shells sticking to players and floating in mid-air
    * Fixed strange behavior in the shotgun reload
    * Fixed various server and client-side exploits and crashes

      Misc:
    * Changing class doesn't kill you anymore
    * Client DLLs now built without SSE, fixing a small problem for people with no SSE support on their CPU
    * Hint to suggest use of "cl_stancemode 1"
    * Optimized dust effects to use less CPU
    * Removed ability to use spraypaint or flashlights in spectator mode
    * Various gameplay balance improvements
    * Various small FPS improvements

* Fixed explosions recording deaths as suicides

Bollocks, most of my accidental TKs are from Noob tubes, which were thankfully recorded as suicides for the accidental victim.

Hopefully this'll fix stoof.

Edit: Thanks for hosting the files Berk.

* Added super-sonic bullet whiz effect

lol the bullets are going so fast they wet themselves

worth getting this then?

kinda.

it's different. but fun.

5punk

Insurgency Mod Released.