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Posted: April 18th, 2007, 23:52
by Dolly Parton
friznit wrote:Understand your concerns DP. let's just say that even if we set ourselves up the main industrialists in the alliance, we're by no means the only industrialists. Lyrus didn't plan on going into cap ship production without being able to source the mins: every single one of them is a highly skilled hulk pilot. Alot of the Hobo's likewise have some scarily good industry alts. What they lack is an organised framework in which to carebear: someone to direct the mining effort and say what we need to mine for, what needs building next etc. i.e. Pretty much what we have our google sheet and perhaps, one day, maybe, pipedream of wabbit's webpage. We were always pretty good at arriving somewhere and immediately seeding the market with basic T1 stuff: something we could do for the alliance too. It's fairly conceptual stuff, and not something that absolutely requires everyone to be involved in the gang at a specific time. We have our mission, we all know what 5punkorp's role in the alliance is, so we all work towards it to a greater or lesser extend
whenever we're online. Ofc if all you want to do is PvP with the Hobo's that's fine too, I'm sure there'll be some of them that just want to mine with us.
More Hulks

Posted: April 19th, 2007, 11:33
by friznit
Litte bump

Anymore ideas?
Posted: April 19th, 2007, 13:10
by centerededgedesign
Well, with the other thread going so strong on Invention, I'm really thinking we can create a presense in the production avenue. If we happen to be able to produce some T2 stuff the alliance needs, cool enough, but I'd be happy to see the isk spent on mins for building, maybe even selling the ruddy T2 bpc's so we don't have to do the actual building, since we'd have to buy shite to do that. (/me doesn't think anyone wants to rebuild the POS forest for the T2 stuffs to build with)
I don't know what the prices are like though, but I know its something we don't have currently.
I would say though, that us getting in on the ground floor setting up our industrial center for the alliance is really motivating me atm. Even if we're just the 'get shite done that needs to be done' people, that's something we kinda did in ISS. "We need haulers to build a POO" 5punk showed up. "We need an escort" 5punk showed up. "Could somebody throw up some deathstars" 5punk winced, but showed up. Every organization needs it's go-to people that get things done when they need done, we're good at that, it makes us all 5punky inside to rise to the challenge. (Like all the pvp we did to defend ISS interests in C3).
Question though, and whoever knows can message me so the thread doesn't derail, but if the station we're looking at is 50%, with 25% tax, wouldn't a POS refinery be better? Just wondering, since I've not heard that a POS refinery wouldn't be allowed or anything. That, and the fact that Freighters will be able to dock w/ POS's is truly good news, we could fill hangar after hangar w/ refined mins, and have a freighter come and load up big time! That, and another Hauler to pick up the hangers and toss into another hangar should allow the freighter to pick them up as well when it's done, meaning we could use a freighter to move UBER amounts of POS stuff about, including covetors, no?
So, I'm going to say our greatest strength lies in our diversity and dedication. We can do alot pretty well. Toss in our capitals for jump hauling or system support, and well, you have 5PUNK all over you.
Posted: April 19th, 2007, 16:26
by Dolly Parton
friznit wrote:Litte bump

Anymore ideas?
Cow Dung
cow pies FTW
Posted: April 20th, 2007, 23:34
by friznit
Steamy wants me to encapsulate what we can do in 5punkorp in a one liner. So for example, if we say "We Do Logistics" then that'll become our raison d'etre as it were. Lyrus do industry, Hobos do PvP, we're a bit of an in-betweeny jack-of-all-trades corp. I'd like to say we do Logistics and all the associated planning (this C4C thing is a prime example of what I mean and of what 5punk is really good at: scout, organise, haul shit up there, seed the market with useful stuff, and set it all up for mining like bastards).
In future, should we ever expand the Alliance, we'd want to scrutinise potential BUMs along the lines of the 3 main corps: they either do Industry, PvP, or Logistics and Lyrus, Hobos or 5punkorp mentor those areas. I think it works well, and I see those three areas as being the cornerstones of any successful alliance.
Posted: April 21st, 2007, 2:14
by Dolly Parton
to be honest i trust you friz and that goes for us all (argue that i pod u). you know what we do and we have all stated it individually. we are logistics/jack-of-all trades like it or not. we always find a way and someone always steps up when stuff needs to get done. we slide easily into logistics but we define COOL

as has been stated b4. Everyone wants to be more like us once they meet us so i say lets go with that. Mommy what should we wear today? Daddy's not around right now.
ps
someone update evemon so i can stop logging in all my accounts to see if something is complete
Posted: April 21st, 2007, 3:40
by Dolly Parton
alliance chat last night
[02:45:47] incom1ng > any1 alive in here?
[02:48:40] Dolly Parton > 0/
[02:48:49] Dolly Parton > /emote in da house
[02:49:27] incom1ng > o7
[02:50:23] MORDETH LESTOK > o/
[02:50:25] incom1ng > whats the npc price for the hacs skill?
[02:50:47] Dolly Parton > ah 1 sec any particular one you interested in
[02:50:56] incom1ng > zealot
[02:51:00] incom1ng > its for my alt
[02:51:26] MORDETH LESTOK > 28.8mil
[02:51:39] Dolly Parton > in the itadel it is 120-150mil, of the 9, 7 are in the 120mil range
[02:51:45] MORDETH LESTOK > heavy assault ship skillbook right?
[02:51:56] Dolly Parton > skill
[02:51:57] Dolly Parton > oops
[02:52:04] incom1ng > yea, ty
[02:52:10] incom1ng > its op dolly
[02:52:44] Dolly Parton > citadel same price, anytime
[02:53:07] incom1ng > i need to go grab skill book for my alt since he cant go to empire
[02:53:09] incom1ng > bloody piwate
[02:53:46] incom1ng > and then i need to find a way to haul a zealot to unity
[02:54:18] Dolly Parton > haul that sounds like a logistics thing
[02:54:25] Dolly Parton > that sounds 5punky
[02:54:35] incom1ng > lol
[02:54:35] Dolly Parton > omg i am 5punky
[02:55:05] incom1ng > will u do me that favor then :p
[02:55:12] Dolly Parton > i am sure i can get a zealot jumo hauled via carrier for you but might take a day or 2
[02:55:27] incom1ng > kk, no rush
[02:55:29] incom1ng > take you're time
[02:55:39] Dolly Parton > i'll pass it along
[02:55:51] incom1ng > cool
[02:56:12] Dolly Parton > i am not the carrier pilot but its something we do
[02:56:52] incom1ng > oh and the hacs skills too plz, if u bring me both the sb and hac i would be very appreciated. i can get the mods myself
[02:56:52] Dolly Parton > wow i wonder if i'll get a cookie for taking a semi-initiative in the first inter cooperations via logistics for BUM
[02:57:19] incom1ng > lol
[02:57:29] Dolly Parton > well i will have our rep contact you and work out the arrangements
not sure how about we do this but isn't this what we do. can someone c about this either way
dp
Posted: April 21st, 2007, 8:11
by friznit
Woo! I'll add it to the google sheet and do it today
hmm, appears we are rather set up for this kinda thing doesn't it?

Posted: April 21st, 2007, 9:17
by traveyb
Jump Hauling captain at the ready sarge

Oh yeah also, I have moved the dread to Assah aswell, so if we can use a freindly POS to jump into, I can move big stuff
Posted: April 21st, 2007, 11:32
by eRabbit
Can we offer logistics AND anal satisfaction?
Posted: April 21st, 2007, 11:33
by Hehulk
Of course

Posted: April 21st, 2007, 18:08
by bomberesque
eRabbit wrote:Can we offer logistics AND anal satisfaction?
so long as we get our priorities right
/me bums
Nice one Dolly

Posted: April 21st, 2007, 20:32
by friznit
Zealot, skill and a whole bunch of other stuff successfully delivered to Unity thisavo

Posted: April 21st, 2007, 22:27
by Dolly Parton
friznit wrote:Zealot, skill and a whole bunch of other stuff successfully delivered to Unity thisavo

you guys are the best. when I hear anything else I'll let you know. great job guys.
