Moar GFX card questions

Post by **ProfHawking** » March 23rd, 2007, 11:09

mrbobbins wrote:The hardest thing to decide on turned out to be the case and then I couldn't find one anywhere

I had that problem also. I went for a lian-li pc6070, took about 3 weeks to get.

Heatpiped mobos are ok i think. mine came with a fan as well just in case though.

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » March 23rd, 2007, 11:19

P5N32-E SLI (Not the 'plus' version)

Hmm, this says it's ok
http://www.dansdata.com/askdan00004.htm

But in this thread
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1089370

"Asus recommends that you do not mount that board, or any heatpipe cooled Asus board, in the "upside down and backwards" configuration"

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 23rd, 2007, 11:20

ProfHawking wrote:Heatpiped mobos are ok i think. mine came with a fan as well just in case though.

Unfortunately, it depends on the heatpipe, how long it is, and how hot the chip it's cooling is.

Some chipsets will be fine upside down with heatpipes not working quite right.

Others (680i springs to mind) will cook flesh even when the heatpipe is the right way up and the extra fans on it

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 23rd, 2007, 11:22

mrbobbins wrote:P5N32-E SLI (Not the 'plus' version)

Hmm, this says it's ok
http://www.dansdata.com/askdan00004.htm

But in this thread
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1089370

"Asus recommends that you do not mount that board, or any heatpipe cooled Asus board, in the "upside down and backwards" configuration"

I'd be inclined to go with dan on this, he's pretty reliable and we'd've heard more if P5Ns cooked when mounted upside dow.

should be fine

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » March 23rd, 2007, 11:31

I always fuck something up

This guy has the same case and a heatpiped mobo, erm so it must fine, probably.

Post by **FatherJack** » March 23rd, 2007, 11:34

mrbobbins wrote:The hardest thing to decide on turned out to be the case and then I couldn't find one anywhere, eventually found a small website that will order one directly from Lian Li, I expect that'll be the last thing to arrive!

An A05, nice. Where abouts did you get it from? I'm after an A16 and didn't really want to use OC again.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 23rd, 2007, 11:34

The reference 680i mobos are approved for upside-downy use.

also, 1 heatpipe is faaabulous.

is how heatpipes should be

Post by **Dog Pants** » March 23rd, 2007, 11:35

How the hell do these people keep their cases so tidy? Even with round-section IDE cables and a massive case mine still looks like a bird's nest.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 23rd, 2007, 11:35

FatherJack wrote: An A05, nice. Where abouts did you get it from? I'm after an A16 and didn't really want to use OC again.

I got the gonk from http://www.aqua-pcs.co.uk they have the a16 but not the a05

the site looks a little iffy, but i've bought loads from them and the service is good.

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » March 23rd, 2007, 11:43

FatherJack wrote: An A05, nice. Where abouts did you get it from? I'm after an A16 and didn't really want to use OC again.

http://www.advancetec.co.uk

Got a quick and helpful response when I emailed them, more than I can say for overclockers.

Shame really as they're the only site that had most of the stuff I wanted in one place

Post by **FatherJack** » March 23rd, 2007, 12:03

Cheers, of those two, only Aqua seemed to have them - cheaper than OC too, and since it's payday...

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » March 23rd, 2007, 12:16

Ok now I'm getting paranoid, the interweb is great for scare stories

Do you thing wacking on one of these on the southbridge would be a good idea?

Or is the northbridge the one to worry about?

But then I've read 2 separate threads stating that people have cut open Asus heat pipes and they were solid copper rather than the liquid cooling. If it was liquid it would be more of an issue as presumably the liquid would pool at the cooler, lower CPU area and not reach the hot southbridge?

Post by **FatherJack** » March 23rd, 2007, 12:25

Isn't it that the pipes fins are arranged in a U shape around the CPU and as heat rises when mounted "upside down" the heat dissapated by the pipes goes back towards the CPU?

With enough fans to get decent airflow, I can't see how it's much of a problem, just seomthing to keep an eye on as you're building it, adding extra cooling if it looks like temps are higher than they should be.

Post by **Dog Pants** » March 23rd, 2007, 12:27

If it was liquid surely it'd be full for maximum heat transfer? To have it sloshing around inside with an air gap seems like a waste of time as it'd be less efficient wouldn't it?

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » March 23rd, 2007, 12:38

Dog Pants wrote:If it was liquid surely it'd be full for maximum heat transfer? To have it sloshing around inside with an air gap seems like a waste of time as it'd be less efficient wouldn't it?

It has to have space for the liquid to heat up, evaporate to gas so it rises to the fins, dissipates the heat, turns back into a liquid and flows back the hotter area.

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » March 28th, 2007, 16:07

we are out of stock on the Lian-Li case that you have ordered
from ourselves. We have been in touch with Lian-Li UK distributor and they
are out of stock too. The cases are coming from Lian-Li's main distributor
which is situated in China which delivery can take up to two weeks.

Just ordered this one instead for next day delivery:

http://www.lian-li.com/product/product0 ... x=4&type=b

Don't like the look as much as the other one but at least this will prevent any potential upsidedown heatpipe problems.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 28th, 2007, 16:09

yay for nice classic cases

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » March 28th, 2007, 16:14

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:yay for nice classic cases

Yeah, I wanted a sqaure black thing with as little 'detail' as possible.

I still really like my Coolermaster Wavemaster but wanted something smaller and more simple this time.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » March 28th, 2007, 16:16

Yup, I do like plain cases, or at least not too shiny/full of lights

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » March 29th, 2007, 7:53

I like the fact that you get an angel view of the case!