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Post by **fabyak** » February 28th, 2007, 12:21

come now Wiggy, you know full well we will 'have' you

its... erm... a... err... new corp enrolement fee! yes, that'll do

Fear · Post by **Fear** » February 28th, 2007, 12:22

amblin wrote:I'll station manage, but only if 5punkorp are the operating corp and we can call the station 5punks Massive Erection. (Or similar.)

If you wish, consider me your deputy. If you are not around/online etc they can deal with me. Even if that just makes me the messenger with no real "powers" - too many cooks and all that.

I just know the worst thing with KDF/ZX was trying to get hold of the stn manager. 5punk can show em how to organise a piss up in a brewery. And 5perm Bank Shirley?

And if we have a stn then we don't need a POS, right?

Well maybe a single deathstar in ISS somewhere for sov.

Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » February 28th, 2007, 14:03

amblin wrote:Vote carried then gents. To BWF we go.

Fear - welcome back chap, good to have you aboard again, I've missed you in corp chat.

WERD

amblin wrote:Lee - so long as we're not paying fees your toon can stay in corp, but if we have to pay fees for you then it'll be bootski whilst you're away I'm afraid. Unless you pay up front ofc - but then why would you do that??

Lee let me know how long you'll be gone I'll make sure you fees are paid unless its like 6 months. 1 or 2 months I got you.

amblin wrote:Friz - I'll station manage, but only if 5punkorp are the operating corp and we can call the station 5punks Massive Erection. (Or similar.)

friz have you thought of training miro in something with the station. he'll love being your assistant i bet and it will relieve you of extra responsibilities.

DP

PS

I got my covert op ship so I'll move my butt on down there and check things out. i'll bring some small secure cans so if I c a good belt i'll anchor temporarily till I get a more permanent can there.

are we gonna do any of that moon mining crap, i mean cool stuff? if so i'll get out the moon probes and get to work.

Lee · Post by **Lee** » February 28th, 2007, 14:13

Dolly Parton wrote:Lee let me know how long you'll be gone I'll make sure you fees are paid unless its like 6 months. 1 or 2 months I got you.

I havent decided 100% if I'm going to yet but if I do it'll be from about 6th March to 1st April.

If we have to start paying any fees while I'm away let me know and if they're not much and you can cover me that'd be great, I'll pay you back when I get back. I'd rather spend a bit of isk than make my employment history messy

Post by **fabyak** » February 28th, 2007, 14:22

Yeah, who would want to do that?

*is on his 3rd time in 5punkorp*

Miro Mishu · Post by **Miro Mishu** » February 28th, 2007, 15:06

Is 5punkorp looking to actually be the one who owns the outpost? And is 'station manger' really 'outpost manager'? (Not, 'manage the office in the outpost' manager) If so I know more of what the role entails but that still doesn't dissuade me from my interest.

Things I know a station manger does:

Sort out docking rights by setting standings
Manage Outpost fuels
Do somthing with the ore that is collected in the Outpost. (Arrange for it to be moved somewhere or somthing prolly.)
???

I'm sure there is alot toit and that's what i've seen the position do from the outside. If 5punk is taking up the task i'd love to do what I can for it.

-Miro

friznit · Post by **friznit** » February 28th, 2007, 16:49

It's a moot point. I've not even asked Count if we can manage the station, and then the customary ones will probably have first dibs at it (Lyrus, ParCan etc). But at least I know there's some interest if the opportunity presents itself.

As far as moon mining goes Dolly, I'm not fussed narf. If we find a moon with something sellable sure, we'll mine it. But I ain't gonna do any reaction shit for a while and definitely NO POS CHAINS! I basically want to carry on what we were doing in JK- but probably just swap the minnie tower for a caldari number.

Btw, we may have to bung up a pure deathstar POS in system if we want an office alongside our production POS. It looks like we might continue the belt/moon rental fees system from 'rifis at least initially, if anything to prevent squabbling as we all move in, and to sort out the alliance wallet a bit which is currently fucked.

Miro Mishu · Post by **Miro Mishu** » February 28th, 2007, 16:54

We have our pos for production, then the KW- DS for the new DS

right?

Fear · Post by **Fear** » February 28th, 2007, 17:03

Why do you want a production pos 2 jumps from empire? I don't get it?

One less POS for 5punk to fall out over surely? (The only thing that ever causes 'arguments' are POSs)

Miro Mishu · Post by **Miro Mishu** » February 28th, 2007, 17:16

Not having to jump minerals from station system to empire is a plus. So is not having to pay the taxes and such for production.. Thats what I can think of.

Fear · Post by **Fear** » February 28th, 2007, 17:23

Miro Mishu wrote:Not having to jump minerals from station system to empire is a plus. So is not having to pay the taxes and such for production.. Thats what I can think of.

I bet there is more hauling of fuel than there would be of minerals. And tax is easily recouped from not having to buy pos and fuel it.

I'm just very anti POS that's all. And I don't want to corp mine only to fuel a POS when it isn't really needed. POSs are the absolute opposite of fun.

Incidentally I have already established a base of operations in Airaken V - Moon 1 - Sisters of EVE Academy for my production corp. This is the best station in that system (has everything) and it is right on the edge of empire. Just short of 9mil rent so not cheap, but if ISS is moving in there I wanted to be sure office space wasn't going to run out.

Miro Mishu · Post by **Miro Mishu** » February 28th, 2007, 17:30

So you're thinking office in empire and office at the outpost station? Make stuff in empire and ship it to the outpost for storage/use?

Fear · Post by **Fear** » February 28th, 2007, 17:41

Miro Mishu wrote:So you're thinking office in empire and office at the outpost station? Make stuff in empire and ship it to the outpost for storage/use?

To some extent yes. Although you don't need an office to use a factory at a station AFAIK. If 5punk was producing as a corp (rather than personal building of things) then obviously a station would make sense.

All you do is turn up and put your order on (remotely if you wish) - no fuel or responsibilities.

My corp will be producing for profit rather than for 5punk (although I would also produce for corp if needed).

Hehulk · Post by **Hehulk** » February 28th, 2007, 17:49

Fear wrote:My corp will be producing for profit rather than for 5punk (although I would also produce for corp if needed).

What?!?! No!! This is completly unacceptable. 5punky alts must exist only to serve the great good of 5punkdom!

Yes, kidding

Miro Mishu · Post by **Miro Mishu** » February 28th, 2007, 17:54

Well, if we do what you're suggesting with production I guess we could store the mods and such we make at the Deathstar in the outpost System. I just don't like having to run to Empire (even if it is two jumps) to refit. I dunno the actual numbers on running a POS (cost, etc) but if it would be beneficial ie, not cost more, to setup production in empire, that works for me.

Now, what if other ISS corps are gonna do the same thing. Are there gonna be production queues? If so, that is somthing to consider as a plus for the POS arrays.

Fear · Post by **Fear** » February 28th, 2007, 18:04

Miro Mishu wrote:Are there gonna be production queues? If so, that is somthing to consider as a plus for the POS arrays.

A fair point.

Lee · Post by **Lee** » February 28th, 2007, 18:08

Miro Mishu wrote:I just don't like having to run to Empire (even if it is two jumps) to refit.

I think the system we're moving into has a station.

It might be a good idea for us to get an office in airaken, keep everything valuable there and run our production from there. That way if our 0.0 system comes under attack all our valuables are safe. All we'll really need to keep in the 0.0 system is ratting ships, pvp ships, barges and haulers. We could also get a deathstar in the 0.0 system to be used if hostiles jump into system while ratting/mining or if the station is camped.

Miro Mishu · Post by **Miro Mishu** » February 28th, 2007, 18:17

Lee, I know that there is an outpost. The question was wether we need an office in that outpost if we setup in empire 2 jumps out. Personally, no matter how this works out i'd like an office in the new outpost cause having a corp hanger in an outpost is really nice. And me not wanting to goto empire to refit was under the assumpion that we wouldnt ahve that office in the outpost station and keep our mods in empire.

Lee · Post by **Lee** » February 28th, 2007, 18:21

I may misunderstanding you but you get a personal hangar in any outpost where you can keep your ships and mods regardless of whether you have a corp hangar.

Miro Mishu · Post by **Miro Mishu** » February 28th, 2007, 18:29

You are right, personal mods and such can be kept in your own hanger. And just maybe, I got a little spoiled with our Office in Tycho. I like the fact that I can keep my personal hanger tidy and dip into the corp storage when I need somthing. It's much easier for me I guess. And in the end, it's convienence.

:p

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