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Posted: February 13th, 2007, 13:39
by spoodie
mrbobbins wrote:Are you getting that mini server box thingy?, looks interesting so let us know how it goes
Don't worry, if I do manage to get one I
will wank on about it, quite furiously. Unfortunately the torrent client is a bit limited at the moment, no throttling or scheduler, but I they're developing it and it's open to user hacking as well.
Posted: February 13th, 2007, 14:56
by Fear
spoodie wrote:
I did. Abusenet is great and all but it costs money and I can wait.
It works out at something like £8pcm which is nothing really.
Best thing about usenet is you can download at 200kb/s and still play on-line games with a ping less than 50ms. And I can download video faster than I can watch it - something only true with the post popular of torrents, and then only sometimes.
It is also more legal, as you are not sharing illegal wares with anyone. And anonymous (well no logs kept so nobody knows what you are downloading exactly).
Though I do agree the cost is the only downside.
Posted: February 13th, 2007, 15:00
by Joose
As a result of this thread, im not back on the abusenets. I thank you, mr Berk.
My hard drive and router, on the other hand, hate you and want you to die a slow painfull death.
/goes out to buy MOAR HD SPACE!
Posted: February 13th, 2007, 15:18
by spoodie
Joose wrote:As a result of this thread, im not back on the abusenets. I thank you, mr Berk.

<strike>not</strike> now?
I'm tempted to give it a go again just for the hell of it. Is there a decent free client? Previously I've been recommended a client that has a really good search feature that utilises online resources so hard to steal.
Posted: February 13th, 2007, 15:19
by Dr. kitteny berk
Fear wrote:It works out at something like £8pcm which is nothing really.
Best thing about usenet is you can download at 200kb/s and still play on-line games with a ping less than 50ms. And I can download video faster than I can watch it - something only true with the post popular of torrents, and then only sometimes.
It is also more legal, as you are not sharing illegal wares with anyone. And anonymous (well no logs kept so nobody knows what you are downloading exactly).
Though I do agree the cost is the only downside.
All of that
Though, it's a about a tenner a month (and fast enough to saturate 100mbit) and 3 people share the accounts.
Posted: February 13th, 2007, 15:25
by Dr. kitteny berk
spoodie wrote:I'm tempted to give it a go again just for the hell of it. Is there a decent free client? Previously I've been recommended a client that has a really good search feature that utilises online resources so hard to steal.
Personally I use
http://www.newzbin.com http://www.bunnyhug.net/nomp/ and
http://www.newsdemon.com/ it seems the best combination (despite adding a whole £12/year to your costs)
Posted: February 13th, 2007, 15:34
by Fear
I use NewzBin, NewzLeecher, and
NewsHosting
Newshosting is $14.95 /pcm for unlimited downloads/bandwidth. With the current weakness of the dollar this works out in our favour.
Posted: February 13th, 2007, 16:15
by deject
I mostly just torment. If it's running slow (which it usually does), I just don't fret about it and leave it running when I'm asleep and such.
Posted: February 13th, 2007, 17:13
by Woo Elephant Yeah
5punkers - fucking up the environment since 2004
I wonder how much a PC costs to run if left on for a whole week?
Posted: February 13th, 2007, 17:28
by FatherJack
£4.93 mine does, that's with a CRT while I'm on it.
Posted: February 13th, 2007, 17:39
by Dr. kitteny berk
Woo Elephant Yeah wrote:5punkers - fucking up the environment since 2004
I wonder how much a PC costs to run if left on for a whole week?
Which one?

Posted: February 13th, 2007, 17:43
by Woo Elephant Yeah
If you have a 900w PSU as opposed to a 600w PSU, but everythign else is the same, do you only use as much power as you need, or would the 900w use more regardless.
I think I remember someone talking about this recently but can't remember the outcome (Fear I think)
Posted: February 13th, 2007, 17:47
by Dr. kitteny berk
it was me and fear on the disco board.
you only use as much as your machine needs (depending on efficiency)
Posted: February 13th, 2007, 17:49
by pixie pie
Woo Elephant Yeah wrote:If you have a 900w PSU as opposed to a 600w PSU, but everythign else is the same, do you only use as much power as you need, or would the 900w use more regardless.
I think I remember someone talking about this recently but can't remember the outcome (Fear I think)
Yep, only uses as much as it needs, depending on efficiency.
One thing I love about having a laptop: 65W power supply.

Posted: February 13th, 2007, 18:23
by Fear
Hmmm....
I have 3x servers on 24/7 (incl one with a 6 disk raid array always spun up)
1x desktop and 1x laptop on if I am awake.
1x UPS, various comms gear 24/7
Bet that isn't as cheap as I think...
Posted: February 13th, 2007, 19:08
by FatherJack
Fear wrote:Bet that isn't as cheap as I think...
Prob not, I used a plug-in thingy to work it out just last week - so that's actual cost (of my main box).
It's based on 17p per kWh, so if those 900W PSUs were being fully utilised (which as people have noted, they usually
aren't) your standard 168-hour week would cost an alarming £25. (£110 a month, £1300 a year)
Interesting as a comparison to newsgroup access costs, assuming that your pipe is capable of maintaining a higher transfer rate than you typically get from torments, and that (if you have the disk space) you wouldn't just download even more stuff 24/7 anyway. (Also assuming you're the one who pays the electricity bill)
Even with my slow connection, which wouldn't benefit, and that I have quite a lot of disk compared to what most people have quoted in the system specs thread - I can fill my disks in about a month from normal tormenting, with enough material to provide probably three months of viewing, although I probably only get around to viewing a quarter of it.
Posted: February 22nd, 2007, 21:36
by MrGreen
my pc magnetically inducts its power from RO-BO, its free, but I had to buy an AIDS > Electricity converter, and some AIDS magnets.
Please don't tell robo
I've got an anchient (early ATX) 350W PSU as the moment, but I am buying a more "phat" 600W Thermaltake for when i get one of these new 8800GTS 320MB cards.
Posted: February 22nd, 2007, 22:11
by Dog Pants
AIDS magnets? Sounds dangerous to me...
Posted: February 22nd, 2007, 22:52
by MrGreen
Dog Pants wrote:AIDS magnets? Sounds dangerous to me...
They're shielded, of course.