Mining Op Profit Breakdown

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How should minerals from mining op be distributed amongst active/particpating members for this weekends op?

Poll ended at January 29th, 2007, 15:34

Give all to corp - ammo, ratting BS and market domination
2
25%
Split equally amongst members none to corp
2
25%
Give corp 50% ore for ammo and such the other 50% to be divided up amongst members
3
38%
Who really cares
0
No votes
Leave a trail for goons to follow and open the can of whoop ass once they arrive
1
13%
 
Total votes: 8

Quinntarn
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Post by Quinntarn »

Dolly Parton wrote:
yeah hes replied back to me via gmail thx
Ok here is my thoughts on this issue.

This will need to be done on the honor system simply becuase I can not be there all the time.

As it is looking we will have one day a week that is done for the corp. The rest of the week will be for your gain.

Example time: (please keep in mind that these numbers are bogus, and just examples.)
Day 1

Lets say Dolly mines for 210 mins, and mines 1000 bistot.

Teh Bomber Hauls for 120 mins.

Fea well he sits in the belt and protects everyone for 3 hours and 30 mins.

So in the sheet Dolly puts in 210 mins and how much was mined. Bomber puts in 120 mins, Fea puts in 210 mins.


Day 2
Quinntum mines for 180 mins and mines 900
Quinntarn hauls for 20 mins
Quinntarn protects for 90 mins

kenny mines for 90 mins, and mines 400 (along with Quinntum)
Lar mines for 120 mins and mines 600 (along with Quinntum)
Miro hauls for 180 mins (along with Quinntum)
Fea Tanks again for 90

quinntum________180__________4,045,713
Kenny___________90___________2,022,857
Dolly___________210__________4,719,999
Fea_____________300__________6,742,855
Quinntarn_______110__________2,472,380
Larentia________120__________2,697,142
Miro____________180__________4,045,713
Bomber__________120__________2,697,142

this is in ISK amount. We can do ore as well.
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Post by bomberesque »

Sounds a bit too organised to me :P

It'll be easier when we run evening ops and we can spread the loot evenly coz the team will be consistent.

For this time, as you're planning some sort of enduro-mining affair, I suggest that whoever is leading keep a rough log of time served, and the 20% player cut gets divided much as Q suggested. Down to minutes might be going a little far, hopefully you'll be able to think of it in hours or shifts.

Whatever really, see you all later
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Post by Quinntarn »

bomberesque wrote:Sounds a bit too organised to me :P

It'll be easier when we run evening ops and we can spread the loot evenly coz the team will be consistent.

For this time, as you're planning some sort of enduro-mining affair, I suggest that whoever is leading keep a rough log of time served, and the 20% player cut gets divided much as Q suggested. Down to minutes might be going a little far, hopefully you'll be able to think of it in hours or shifts.

Whatever really, see you all later
Short version. YOU WANT TO GET PAID FOR YOUR TIME! Take the 5 mins to fill the sheet out at the end of the day.

Long version.
While I do agree with the weekend ops and tossing out this spread sheet, thats all fine with me.

The issue is this. Lets say You, can only be around for say 30 mins. And I could use some help hauling. I've got ratting covered, and all is well in the belts. Dont you want to get "Paid" for your time? Hell dude.. the amount of time you save me from having to break off from mining, change ships, move the ore and a much less rate that you can. Its WORTH IT! soooo.. lets look at some isky numbers. Say it would take me 30 mins to move this stuff that I've spent the past 120 mins mining.
@ 90 mill an hour, thats 45 mill that we've lost, by me not mining!

Now someone wants to spend their time Ratting, thats fine by me. And Im not gonna ask for their share of the take. But, if I can pay you 15 mill, (45 mill / 3 = 15 mill) for 30 mins of their work. DONE DEAL!

This is truely a numbers game. I think the best way I could put it is this. In empire you can buy a shuttle for 9k, in 0.0 your gonna spend 100k why? The amount of time that it would take you to run to empire, buy the shuttle, run back to 0.0 you would spend how much time? And in that time if you go kill one ratt spawn, you can make say 500k to 2 mill. With this example. Are ya gonna go spend the 9k or the 100k?

30 mins of anyones time = about 15 mill with me. 1 person mining, 1 person hauling, 1 person tanking. Granted its not always the best ores. We will need the smaller ores as well to make the FLEET that I can only imagine that Fea and Friz have going around in their heads.


This...
quinntum________180__________4,045,713
Kenny___________90___________2,022,857
Dolly___________210__________4,719,999
Fea_____________300__________6,742,855
Quinntarn_______110__________2,472,380
Larentia________120__________2,697,142
Miro____________180__________4,045,713
Bomber__________120__________2,697,142
These numbers are Way off for the amount of time spent. The current amount that is used here is 32,715,335.

@ 90 mill an hour, with the amount of miners here, and the amount of time involved we are looking at Well hell here.. These are real numbers!

quinntum________180_____________71,106,870
Kenny___________90______________35,553,435
Dolly___________210_____________82,958,015
Fea_____________300_____________118,511,450
Quinntarn_______110_____________43,454,198
Larentia________120_____________47,404,580
Miro____________180_____________71,106,870
Bomber__________120_____________47,404,580

Well in this example mining Bistot, Teh Bomber will make 47 mill for his 120 mins worth of work.

If you cant tank haul, if you cant haul, mine, if you cant mine using a coveter/retriever, get some miner 2's. No it will not count if your out there in a frig, with 2 miner 2's

Q's
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Post by bomberesque »

Q, I reconsidered my post during the drive to work. Yoiu're right, those taking a shift whenever during this extended op can easily log their own time to the Google sheet. Chances are ther'll be no one individual on the whole time anyway so if whatever is mined is pooled, refined and then split up at the end of the overall op based upon the hours that pilots have logged then that would seem to be the easiest way all round.

Looks like I have to work tomorrow (BOOOOO) but I'll be on tonight. Perhaps catch you all then :wave:
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Post by Dolly Parton »

man i am at work and trying to figure out any way possible for me to
leave early. I sent a corp mail on this but figured I would post here as
well. I got isk for a hulk. I found one in RENS for 545 or 549 mil isk.
Don't want to spend more than 500mil. You all find one please tell me or
get someone with corp wallet access to buy it and when I log on I will
wire the isk. Hell I'll pay someone who finds one around the price (500)
10 mil just for saying. hey bud xxxxxx system has it ~500 mil i go
thanks and wire isk to them. JITA is not an option, stupid suicide
ravens they got there.

thanks

DP :boogie:
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Post by FatherJack »

Dolly Parton wrote:I got isk for a hulk
Had a float round minimised at work :)

Heimatar 548
Sinq Laison 540
The Forge 520 (sorry)
Lonetrek 555
Everyshore 525
Essence 520 (place called oursulaert)

hth
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Post by Dolly Parton »

FatherJack wrote: Had a float round minimised at work :)

Heimatar 548
Sinq Laison 540
The Forge 520 (sorry)
Lonetrek 555
Everyshore 525
Essence 520 (place called oursulaert)

hth
oursalert i know that place, fun fun fun, looks like i'll be headed that a way.

nice at work you're a GOD not the god of course but a demigod like me, just as good and powerful with lots of exotic dancers offering themselves for our worldly satisfaction. :boogie:

k i got to get out of work this mining excitement is killing me. :x
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Post by Fear »

There will be loads of war targets there dolly.

If you ask MorbidMonk nicely he might pick on up for you - he can fly them.

He can't see this forums tho, catch him in game.
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Post by Dolly Parton »

yeah dolly and kenny will be no where near there, i use to do missions there than joined ISS and looked at local and said f this i am outy 5000 and never went back
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Post by Quinntarn »

Dolly Parton wrote:yeah dolly and kenny will be no where near there, i use to do missions there than joined ISS and looked at local and said f this i am outy 5000 and never went back
Dolly try this site.

http://eve-central.com/home/market.html
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