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Posted: May 5th, 2008, 0:27
by Dr. kitteny berk
HereComesPete wrote:If I re-install windows over the top without a format am I right in thinking it'll replace the system files but leave the rest of the stuff on the c drive alone? Problem here is that the jmicron stuff isn't on my xp disk, it's third party so it may just have the exact same problem
Correct, you can even set a different windows root directory.

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 0:28
by Fear
Can you disable the raid part in BIOS leading to windows perhaps maybe not trying to load that file?

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 0:30
by Dr. kitteny berk
Fear wrote:Can you disable the raid part in BIOS leading to windows perhaps maybe not trying to load that file?
:above: Is worth a go, but i'm 99.99% sure it'll still try to load the driver.

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 0:34
by HereComesPete
Yeah, I saw that and thought fuck off, that price is because it powers the sata drive externally and allows back up etc, all I want is a few quids worth of direct cable, fuckers don't do that.

Hopefully the chkdsk will work, I realised why it had stalled last time, the drive wasn't actually plugged in... :oops:

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 0:40
by HereComesPete
Dr. kitteny berk wrote:
:above: Is worth a go, but i'm 99.99% sure it'll still try to load the driver.
Despite me never using it it's decided it's so system critical it still loads it, even for safe mode hence that not working.

I'll try it if chkdsk doesn't work.

Worst thing is, I've run out of baccy and tabs, I'm running on a nicotine free headache now.

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 0:56
by buzzmong
HereComesPete wrote: Worst thing is, I've run out of baccy and tabs, I'm running on a nicotine free headache now.
Stave off the cravings with bacon. It makes sense.

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 0:59
by HereComesPete
I has had surf n turf for tea. Baconz and scampi and chips with a green leaf salad topped with creme fraiche and spring onions, it was all tasty. The missus is at the pizza shop right now after being out on the piss so I've placed an order for moar pig parts atop the tomato and bready crust. Still needing a smoke very badly though.

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 1:02
by Dr. kitteny berk
HereComesPete wrote:I has had surf n turf for tea. Baconz and scampi and chips
Surely that'd be a surf n sty?

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 1:08
by HereComesPete
Meh, it was tasty whatever.

This chkdsk seems to have forgotten to do anything past 60%, it's just taken about 10 minutes to get to 61%, bloody thing. If this doesn't fix it then disabling raid, then a winstall over the top. None of that works it's a trip to kv's later today or a fresh install, fuck the lost stuff.

I've been trolling loads of forums about this jgogo thingy, apparently it fucks up at some point on pretty much every board it's on. Intel, the bunch of cock gobblers, haven't exactly rushed to sort it out either.

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 1:15
by buzzmong
chkdsk takes a while, it's scanning every sector on the HDD. Which is handy.

Do something constructive while you wait, like read a book or similar.

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 1:54
by HereComesPete
I've read two new scientist books, 'does anything eat wasps' and 'why don't penguins' feet freeze' both full of useless information.

Pizza has also been eaten. Was a super cheap 2 quid thing.

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 2:15
by Dr. kitteny berk
HereComesPete wrote:I've read two new scientist books, 'does anything eat wasps' and 'why don't penguins' feet freeze' both full of useless information.
So, does anything eat wasps?

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 2:30
by HereComesPete
Lots of things. Nomadic tribesmen, birds, lizards, fish, spiders etc. The best one however is a little fly that lands on the wasps and lays eggs under its carapace, these then hatch and eat the wasp alive as they grow.

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 2:31
by Dr. kitteny berk
HereComesPete wrote:The best one however is a little fly that lands on the wasps and lays eggs under its carapace, these then hatch and eat the wasp alive as they grow.
Fancy.

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 3:08
by HereComesPete
Fuck it. Windoze over the top is go. If that doesn't work then I'm going to smash something and then nuke the fucking thing, I can get the stuff back easily enough, most of my crap is on my other drive.

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 6:44
by HereComesPete
Thanks for the help bitches!

I now have to run through my drives clicking stuff to get the registry in order, I can't find a faster way but it will teach me to copy my registry hive to my other drive more often.

If anyone's got a handy way of restoring a pre-reinstall registry/getting a fresh registry to recognize all the crap that's from he old install then please share.

Re: Unknown boot failure

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 9:27
by Baliame
HereComesPete wrote:Help!!!

Started up my pc earlier and got past the usual scrolling of stuff. Then it sits with a blank screen doing nothing. There's no error message regarding a boot problem, just a blank screen.

I then tried a recovery using my xp disk but my admin password isn't recognized. The admin account is to the best of my knowledge disabled and unpassworded.

So I then went for the full repair option and followed the advice listed at this page The problem is that once the install restarted it didn't resume repairing windows, it went bck to the blank screen.

I defragged my hdd last night so it would appear that the computer has fucked itself. The HDD seems fine, I get no error messages from the smart thingy telling me that C is broken in any way.

I'm going to re-try a full repair and if that doesn't work I'm going to run a full re-install.

Before I do that, anyone have any suggestions?

Note, various password finders etc were in my plan before the re-install, but I've got no disks to burn onto and use pre-boot and I can't find my usb pen anywhere, so that method is out the window.
Do you get it AFTER Windows starts up? I used to get a blank windows screen there, forcing me to launch explorer.exe from task manager.

Posted: May 5th, 2008, 10:20
by HereComesPete
It's fixed now.

It was a raid driver that I don't even use deciding that it was critical and couldn't be skipped or bypassed. Needless to say I've scrubbed the fucker well and truly off my hdd and disabled the controller at as many levels as I can. Needed a re-install and tweaking of the registry, but I've not lost anything, just had to re-install/re-introduce a few things to get it sorted.

And all because of windoze own defraggling system b0rking my install, stupid bloody thing. Still, it needed the defrag, aoc has made a mess of both my drives as a result of leaking all over the page file whilst sitting on the other drive.

Apparently the jgogo.sys file is fucking up a lot of people, so if anyone has a jmicron raid controller that supplements the intel one but don't raid that many drives, turn the thing off, delete the drivers and save yourself the hassle I went through.

Handily whilst tweaking the registry I learned about backing it up in images etc and using hive structures to replace system restores and whatnot, far more reliable and controllable and rather useful in the event of a registry fuck up.