Kill it, Cook it, Eat it

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » January 9th, 2008, 18:22

Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall has a programme at the moment, demonstrating the poor conditions many animals are raised in. I think this is a most important thing that people should know about and is also covered in the Kill It show.

It's just been announced on the news that a deadline has been set by the government to stop battery chicken farming. Good.

Mr. Johnson · Post by **Mr. Johnson** » January 9th, 2008, 18:41

Dog Pants wrote:
It means you can look after those animals for when the likes of me and the man from the slaughterhouse want a pet. Without you (not you personally) I wouldn't have Beaker.

that's actually the reason i dont' like this job too much, since you have to sell the animals you yourself looked after for and often raised from young age to chavs or similar twats who'll abandon it after the novelty wears off. luckily most of them are so fucking stupid you can tell them anything and they'll believe it. like telling them parrots are vicious beasts who'll chew your fingers off once they reach adulthood, or that snakes who don't get much larger than 1 m will eat you alive when you sleep.

anyway, i'm going to try and get a job in the zoo soon. i can try.

Post by **Dog Pants** » January 9th, 2008, 18:54

Mr. Johnson wrote:
that's actually the reason i dont' like this job too much, since you have to sell the animals you yourself looked after for and often raised from young age to chavs or similar twats who'll abandon it after the novelty wears off. luckily most of them are so fucking stupid you can tell them anything and they'll believe it. like telling them parrots are vicious beasts who'll chew your fingers off once they reach adulthood, or that snakes who don't get much larger than 1 m will eat you alive when you sleep.

anyway, i'm going to try and get a job in the zoo soon. i can try.

I see your point. That would bother me too.

Mr. Johnson · Post by **Mr. Johnson** » January 9th, 2008, 18:54

spoodie wrote:Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall has a programme at the moment, demonstrating the poor conditions many animals are raised in. I think this is a most important thing that people should know about and is also covered in the Kill It show.

It's just been announced on the news that a deadline has been set by the government to stop battery chicken farming. Good.

i wish our government did this. i had some free range-chicken from our neighbour some time ago, who breeds, kills and prepares her own chickens (we have chickens too, but only for the eggs, we let them die of natural causes) and i just couldn't believe how much meat there was on the chicken. that must've been one healthy chicken.

Nickface · Post by **Nickface** » January 9th, 2008, 18:56

Dog Pants wrote:It's a popular opinion, but why do I need to understand how my burger gets on my plate? I suspect the people who make the burgers and who do understand it don't know a lot about the IT infrastructure of their nation's military (to use my job as an example), but that's the beauty of the system we live in - they don't have to because I do it for them.

I didn't mean to imply everyone needs to stop what they're doing and go kill something just simply to learn about food, but that it's a worthwhile experience and gives you a better understanding. If doing any of the other things were easily accessible to observe, then by all means, they are also worthwhile educational experiences.

Chickenz · Post by **Chickenz** » January 9th, 2008, 19:15

After watching the baby goat episode last night I was extremely impressed with the BBC for giving that show the thumbs up. Killing things and chopping them up on tv?! Fucking brilliant but a couple of things raged me.

Firstly that stupic bitch presenter . Some of the things she did seemed totally unprofessional particularly when talking to the chef in the audience, she asked him a question nodded and walked off whilst he was still talking.

Secondly the fucking women in the crowd and there ooh I can't eat it because it looked so cute and then they killed it horribly. Oh fucking grow up you weak pathetic people. Clearly ignorance is fucking bliss when it comes to the meat you see in the shops. What did you expect? That the goat would majestically transform into cutlets and chops with no gore or death?

Thirdly the fucking ghetto bloke at the end and his 'Yer, it was all aight till they shot it and knifed its neck to death' were you not watching and listening to cockend. It was dead before they hung it up.

Anyhoo, baby cow tiem go go go.

Post by **Dog Pants** » January 9th, 2008, 19:27

Nickface wrote:
I didn't mean to imply everyone needs to stop what they're doing and go kill something just simply to learn about food, but that it's a worthwhile experience and gives you a better understanding. If doing any of the other things were easily accessible to observe, then by all means, they are also worthwhile educational experiences.

Sorry, I didn't mean to read too much into it. It's a fair point, but I've seen people take it too far by saying I've no right to eat meat if I don't have the stomach to kill it myself. Usually self righteous hippies.

spoodie · Post by **spoodie** » January 9th, 2008, 19:54

M4niachicken wrote:Firstly that stupic bitch presenter . Some of the things she did seemed totally unprofessional particularly when talking to the chef in the audience, she asked him a question nodded and walked off whilst he was still talking.

Yeah I noticed that, was funny. Bearing in mind this woman does that awful, whining, sensationalising Watchdog POS it's hardly surprising. She's only capable of one type of presenting and it's not exactly appropriate for this otherwise intelligent show.

MIkkyo · Post by **MIkkyo** » January 9th, 2008, 20:52

<a href="http://www.b3tards.com/" title="Image hosted on b3tards.com"><img src="http://www.b3tards.com/u/ebe1f8a94b5b79 ... f.jpg"></a>

I prefer meat that I've killed an prepared myself, but since I can't shoot a cow I leave that to the guys who can and get my steaks from a family butcher who buys his meat local. Because I know how its killed and in some way feel better that the animal had a good life before resting in pieces in my belly. The folks who complain/don't want to watch these kinda shows but still want to eat animals, should just not eat meat.

Post by **Dog Pants** » January 9th, 2008, 20:58

MIkkyo wrote:The folks who complain/don't want to watch these kinda shows but still want to eat animals, should just not eat meat.

I'm not complaining about the show, but I'm not bothered about watching it. I don't particularly want to see animals killed - I'd rather play COD or watch a film.

Mr. Johnson · Post by **Mr. Johnson** » January 9th, 2008, 21:29

MIkkyo wrote:<a href="http://www.b3tards.com/" title="Image hosted on b3tards.com"><img src="http://www.b3tards.com/u/ebe1f8a94b5b79 ... f.jpg"></a>

you bastard.

Post by **HereComesPete** » January 9th, 2008, 23:13

Mr. Johnson wrote:
you bastard.

Good christy Mr Johnson, that is an epic chin!

Mr. Johnson · Post by **Mr. Johnson** » January 9th, 2008, 23:16

it is mostly beard really, nowadays it looks much tidier, since that picture was taken in australia, and australia urges you not to shave.

Shada · Post by **Shada** » January 9th, 2008, 23:22

You look a bit like Peter Serafinowicz, only with more epic chin.

You bunny shooting bastard.

Mr. Johnson · Post by **Mr. Johnson** » January 9th, 2008, 23:26

you better not bunnyhop when i'm around, chowder.

Post by **FatherJack** » January 9th, 2008, 23:31

I eat meat rather extensively, but I'm pretty much scared of all animals. I wouldn't mind shooting them or something, but wouldn't want to touch them - certainly not alive, and not dead either in case they suddenly came back to life like in Pet Semetary. The transferring of the carcass (which I mentally seem to equate to roadkill) into packaged meat I'll leave to the professionals, although I don't have a problem with seeing how it's done.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » January 10th, 2008, 0:35

Being a damn near carnivore foodie, I'm keen to get more involved in the raising and killing of food, Just not really had the chance yet (mainly because the bunnies around here all have lung cancer)

But mostly, I do think we need to get back in touch with the idea that animals are living, breathing entities that we kill for food and should be treated decently, because otherwise they taste like shit.

Post by **HereComesPete** » January 10th, 2008, 1:13

This. The main reason I'll spend extra money and effort on procuring meat is that it tastes better, invariably this is because the animal has been fed properly and allowed to move around.

As for killing things with my own hands, I've lost count of how many small fluffy creatures/pleasant coloured game birds I've shot, but damn near all of them have been sent to the butcher for processing, or been gralloched and plucked by myself and mates, the few left to rot have generally been skinny dying mixy rabbits, so I regard killing them as being nice, as they're already fucked.

It seems like some great macho manly thing the first time you go out and shoot and kill something, then it hits you that you've just ended the life of a creature and suddenly it's not so funny. But they're either vermin or raised for shooting, so I'm well past any guilt now.

Also, I seem to recall that not long after I joined 5punk that there was a bit of handbags over shooting things, but then the favourite tipple and the how to make a cup of tea properly threads took everyone's attention.

Fear · Post by **Fear** » January 10th, 2008, 2:28

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/shameless plug

(I had the nicest steak ever from here, it just so happens it's also one of my shops,

)

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » January 10th, 2008, 2:30

http://www.wellhungmeat.com/ is pretty good too, really not cheap though.