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Posted: October 6th, 2005, 10:41
by Woo Elephant Yeah
Thanks for the info so far guys.

I'm pricing things up, and it's starting to look like a very expensive thing to set up, but I'm not giving up yet, I need to know the costs in order to work out how long it would take before making a profit

Posted: October 6th, 2005, 11:11
by Grimmie
In my experience, these things need so much funding it's stupid. The electricity bills and the renting of floorspace is astounding, not to mention constant upgrades and buying new games. The playing fields right in the middle of london died after about 5 years, due to a lack of funds. FragZ, in Solihull high street, right next to a college, and beside a huge shopping centre, died after about five years too, due to lack of funds.

Unless you have a lot of monies to commit to it, and a perfect location, then.. Well.. You get ze picture.

Posted: October 6th, 2005, 16:21
by FatherJack
Maybe it needs to be something else as a "day job" too. Like a snack bar on an industrial estate with a captive market.

Posted: October 6th, 2005, 16:33
by Grimmie
FatherJack wrote:Maybe it needs to be something else as a "day job" too. Like a snack bar on an industrial estate with a captive market.
Or a brothel.

Posted: October 7th, 2005, 18:01
by Woo Elephant Yeah
After more investigating, it would seem there have been several failed attempts at setting up a LAN Party business in Bristol, and only one has been successfull, and that's in the city centre, which is also a PC Hardware shop/cafe as well.

I ahve worked out that it would be roughly around the £7000 mark to set everything up with 15 machines, and it's a gamble I'm not willing to take, especially as so many have tried and failed in the past.

Oh well it was worth a look into, as narf it would of been my dream job I think :(

Posted: October 7th, 2005, 19:09
by Nickface
Woo Elephant Yeah wrote:Oh well it was worth a look into, as narf it would of been my dream job I think :(
Well, there's always a venture for when you retire ;)

Posted: October 7th, 2005, 19:17
by Grimmie
The workers at our old (ex) LAN place didn't really have a good time, having to deal with morons, chavs and 12 year olds who giggled, shreiked at the top of their voices and illegally looked at porn. They also didnt like the continual abuse of equipment (bashing keyboards, towers, mice and monitors) and the medlee of viruses uploaded onto systems.

If you could control all of the above, then it really would've been an excellent idea :) In the end, FragZ had to employ their own family.. For free. Hm.

I wouldn't have liked to see Mrs woo and Baby woo working at a LAN for free.

Posted: October 8th, 2005, 11:00
by TezzRexx
Grimmie wrote: I wouldn't have liked to see Mrs woo and Baby woo working at a LAN for free.
Family Business!!

and all I have to say about fragz is "lol Fragz". Don't forget Microsoft came and took their Xbox away XD!

Posted: October 8th, 2005, 17:48
by deject
FAMILY BUSINESS!


[Intro: Kanye West]
Hey son (all, all, all the things, things)
You made the team this year? (all, all, all the things things)
Aw th-, they say you wasn't tall enough?
(all, all, all that glitters is not gold)
Yeah me we gon' cook this up okey(now gold is not a reality)
(real is what you live to be)
You got some new girlfriend?

[Verse 1: Kanye West]
This is family business
And this is for the family that can't be with us
And this is for my cousin locked down, know the answer's in it
That's why I spit it in my songs so sweet
Like a photo of your granny's picture
Now that you're gone it hit us
Super hard on Thankgiving and Christmas, this can't be right
Yeah you heard the track I did man, this can't be life
Somebody please say grace so I can save face
And have a reason to cover my face
I even made you a plate, soul food, know how Granny do it
Monkey bread on the side, know how the family do it
When I brought it why had guard have to look all through it?
As kids we used to laugh
Who knew that life would move this fast?
Who knew I'd have to look at you through a glass?
And look, you tell me you ain't did it, then you ain't did it
And if you did, then that's family business

[Hook: Choir]
And I don't care 'bout (all the, all the diamond rings, diamond rings)
They don't mean a thing (all, all, all the things)
All these fancy things
I tell you that all (all the glitter) my weight in gold
Now all I know I know all these things

[Verse 2: Kanye West]
This is family business
And this is for everybody standin' with us
Come on, let's take a family Grammy picture
Abby, remember when they ain't believe in me?
Now she like "See, that's my cousin on TV"
Now, we gettin' it and we gon' make it
And they gon' hate it and I'm his favorite
I can't deny it, I'm a straight rider
But when we get together be electric slidin'
Grandma, get 'em shook up
Aw naw, don't open the photo book up
I got an Aunt Ruth that can't remember your name
But I bet them Polaroids'll send her down memory lane
You know that one auntie, we don't mean to be rude
But every holiday nobody eatin' the food
And you don't wanna stay there cuz them your worst cousins
Got roaches at their crib like them your first cousins
Act like you ain't took a bath with your cousins
Fit three in the bed if it's six of y'all
I'm talkin' 'bout three by the head and three by the leg
But you ain't have to tell my girl I used to pee in the bed

[Interlude: Choir]
Rain, rain, rain go away
Let the sun come out and all the children say
Rain, rain, rain go away
Let the sun come out and all the children say

[Verse 3: Kanye West]
I woke up early this mornin' with a new state of mind
A creative way to rhyme without usin' nines and guns
Keep your nose out the sky, keep your heart to God
And keep your face to the risin' sun
All my niggas from the Chi, that's my family dog
And my niggas ain't my guys, they my family dog
I feel like one day you'll understand me dog
You can still love your man and be manly dog
You ain't got to get heated at every house warmin'
Sittin' here, grillin' people like George Foreman
Why Uncle Ray and Aunt Shiela always performin'?
The second she storm out, then he storm in
Y'all gon' sit down, have a good time this reunion
And drink some wine like Communion
And act like everything fine and if it isn't
We ain't lettin' everybody in our family business

[Interlude: Choir]
(all the, all the diamond rings, diamond rings)
They don't mean a thing (all, all, all the things)
They don't mean a thing (all, all, all the things)
(all the, all the glitteris not gold)
They don't mean a thing, a thing

[Hook: Choir]
And I don't care 'bout (all the, all the diamond rings, diamond rings)
They don't mean a thing (all, all, all the things)
All these fancy things
I tell you that all (all the glitter) my weight in gold
Now all I know I know all these things

[Females:] (oooh) All these things (these things)
[Males:] All these things (oooh) all these things (these things)
[F:] All these things (oooh) all these things (these things)
[M:] All these things (oooh) all these things (these things)
[F:] All these things (oooh) all these things (these things)
[M:] All these things (oooh) all these things (these things)
[F:] All these things (oooh) all these things (these things)
[M:] All these things (oooh) all these things (these things)

[Child:]C.L.K Mercedes Benz
[Child:] Mommy and Daddy please stop fighting
[Child:] Let's get Stevie out of jail

Posted: October 9th, 2005, 19:44
by TezzRexx
deject wrote:FAMILY BUSINESS!


[Intro: Kanye West]
Hey son (all, all, all the things, things)
You made the team this year? (all, all, all the things things)
Aw th-, they say you wasn't tall enough?
(all, all, all that glitters is not gold)
Yeah me we gon' cook this up okey(now gold is not a reality)
(real is what you live to be)
You got some new girlfriend?

[Verse 1: Kanye West]
This is family business
And this is for the family that can't be with us
And this is for my cousin locked down, know the answer's in it
That's why I spit it in my songs so sweet
Like a photo of your granny's picture
Now that you're gone it hit us
Super hard on Thankgiving and Christmas, this can't be right
Yeah you heard the track I did man, this can't be life
Somebody please say grace so I can save face
And have a reason to cover my face
I even made you a plate, soul food, know how Granny do it
Monkey bread on the side, know how the family do it
When I brought it why had guard have to look all through it?
As kids we used to laugh
Who knew that life would move this fast?
Who knew I'd have to look at you through a glass?
And look, you tell me you ain't did it, then you ain't did it
And if you did, then that's family business

[Hook: Choir]
And I don't care 'bout (all the, all the diamond rings, diamond rings)
They don't mean a thing (all, all, all the things)
All these fancy things
I tell you that all (all the glitter) my weight in gold
Now all I know I know all these things

[Verse 2: Kanye West]
This is family business
And this is for everybody standin' with us
Come on, let's take a family Grammy picture
Abby, remember when they ain't believe in me?
Now she like "See, that's my cousin on TV"
Now, we gettin' it and we gon' make it
And they gon' hate it and I'm his favorite
I can't deny it, I'm a straight rider
But when we get together be electric slidin'
Grandma, get 'em shook up
Aw naw, don't open the photo book up
I got an Aunt Ruth that can't remember your name
But I bet them Polaroids'll send her down memory lane
You know that one auntie, we don't mean to be rude
But every holiday nobody eatin' the food
And you don't wanna stay there cuz them your worst cousins
Got roaches at their crib like them your first cousins
Act like you ain't took a bath with your cousins
Fit three in the bed if it's six of y'all
I'm talkin' 'bout three by the head and three by the leg
But you ain't have to tell my girl I used to pee in the bed

[Interlude: Choir]
Rain, rain, rain go away
Let the sun come out and all the children say
Rain, rain, rain go away
Let the sun come out and all the children say

[Verse 3: Kanye West]
I woke up early this mornin' with a new state of mind
A creative way to rhyme without usin' nines and guns
Keep your nose out the sky, keep your heart to God
And keep your face to the risin' sun
All my niggas from the Chi, that's my family dog
And my niggas ain't my guys, they my family dog
I feel like one day you'll understand me dog
You can still love your man and be manly dog
You ain't got to get heated at every house warmin'
Sittin' here, grillin' people like George Foreman
Why Uncle Ray and Aunt Shiela always performin'?
The second she storm out, then he storm in
Y'all gon' sit down, have a good time this reunion
And drink some wine like Communion
And act like everything fine and if it isn't
We ain't lettin' everybody in our family business

[Interlude: Choir]
(all the, all the diamond rings, diamond rings)
They don't mean a thing (all, all, all the things)
They don't mean a thing (all, all, all the things)
(all the, all the glitteris not gold)
They don't mean a thing, a thing

[Hook: Choir]
And I don't care 'bout (all the, all the diamond rings, diamond rings)
They don't mean a thing (all, all, all the things)
All these fancy things
I tell you that all (all the glitter) my weight in gold
Now all I know I know all these things

[Females:] (oooh) All these things (these things)
[Males:] All these things (oooh) all these things (these things)
[F:] All these things (oooh) all these things (these things)
[M:] All these things (oooh) all these things (these things)
[F:] All these things (oooh) all these things (these things)
[M:] All these things (oooh) all these things (these things)
[F:] All these things (oooh) all these things (these things)
[M:] All these things (oooh) all these things (these things)

[Child:]C.L.K Mercedes Benz
[Child:] Mommy and Daddy please stop fighting
[Child:] Let's get Stevie out of jail
Not This.

Posted: October 9th, 2005, 20:21
by deject
what's wrong with Kanye West?

Posted: October 9th, 2005, 23:17
by Joose
deject wrote:what's right with Kanye West?
fixed.

Posted: October 9th, 2005, 23:31
by deject
bah, you can all go to hell...

Posted: October 9th, 2005, 23:45
by Dr. kitteny berk
deject wrote:bah, you can all go to hell...
exactly.

We all can.

You just Will.

Posted: October 10th, 2005, 17:05
by pixie pie
I must agree with the berk. What IS right with kanye west?

Posted: October 10th, 2005, 22:15
by deject
fucking brits...

no appreciation for american music...

Posted: October 10th, 2005, 22:31
by Grimmie
deject wrote:fucking americans...

no appreciation for music...
fix'd

Posted: October 10th, 2005, 23:51
by TezzRexx
Grimmie wrote:
deject wrote:fucking americans...

no appreciation for music...
fix'd
o0o0o this :boogie:

Posted: October 11th, 2005, 0:58
by deject
Just FYI, my country is better than your country. :boogie:

Posted: October 11th, 2005, 4:55
by Dr. kitteny berk
Oh?

where did you move to?