BSOD on Beef

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » July 4th, 2007, 15:20

hrrrnghhh....it seems that its beef and cs:s aswell (i just tried the insurgency mod and it crashed in that)

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » July 4th, 2007, 15:21

do driver fettling.

Post by **deject** » July 4th, 2007, 16:24

Dr. kitteny berk wrote:do driver fettling.

Yep. try newer, older, just about every driver for your GPU. also, try underclocking it to see if that helps.

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » July 4th, 2007, 18:48

do i need to uninstall the drivers i have now or just overwrite them when it installs?

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » July 4th, 2007, 18:50

uninstall.

there's a link to drivercleaner somewhere in this thread i think. use it.

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » July 4th, 2007, 20:59

could i not just use the uninstaller thats supplied with it?

edit: also...why has it just started all of a sudden over the past few days?

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » July 4th, 2007, 21:32

you could, but it doesn't work very well (again, discussed somewhere in the thread)

Post by **HereComesPete** » July 4th, 2007, 22:32

I drive cleaned after my new 8800 started struggling with beef just a few days ago, I found that despite mutliple re-installs of windoze, I had drivers from my last card, and the card before that! A bit of fettling with berks stolen hoover has fixed beef proper good. Css was the same earlier, fixed now, and oblivion, but I think that was because it re-tiled the ground with the elven cartographer map!

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » July 4th, 2007, 22:50

ok ty

i will try this all tommorrow

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » July 20th, 2007, 20:44

hrghrghghh....this is really starting to piss me off now. i cured the BSODs by installing the new Nvidia driver, although for some reason, beef occasionally went yellow and froze and a load of other games just froze and went black. i thought that installing the original drivers off the disk might cure it, if it was just a corrupt driver in the 1st place but no luck; in fact it seems to be getting worse

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now some games that didnt BSOD in the 1st place do, and a minute ago when i got a BSOD on Colin McRae Dirt (didnt used to BSOD) and pressed the button to restart the PC, the power light just sat there flashing blue (on) then orange (standby) and back to blue etc. etc. nothing would turn it off apart from unplugging it.

it occured to me that it might be something overheating (probs graphics card since that seems to be causing the bsods). could this be the problem? or the PSU not good enough or anything else people can think of? or is it just the fecking driver?

*goes to find a hammer*

buzzmong · Post by **buzzmong** » July 20th, 2007, 20:49

I'd go with graphics card getting hot (I'm currently suspecting that on my new build, it drops out of CS:S / Beef occasionaly).

Could be the psu as well or just general case heat.

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » July 20th, 2007, 20:52

yes i must admit its not the most cooling-friendly case in the world. i might try it with the side off to see if that makes any difference

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » July 20th, 2007, 21:19

Install ATItool, leave it running (set it to save temps to file in the settings)

then play games, look at the log to see temps after.

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » July 20th, 2007, 22:01

ok thanks ill try that

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » July 20th, 2007, 22:07

oh god....it got up to 81oC just running the 3d image at 377fps

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » July 20th, 2007, 22:23

81 is reasonably high, but not too bad for a graphics card.

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » July 20th, 2007, 22:45

oh well...i'll try it for a game now and ill post the results later

thewombleofdeath · Post by **thewombleofdeath** » July 20th, 2007, 23:00

i tried dirt again, only reached a max of 73 degrees (didnt BSOD this time). i'll try some other games tommorrow.

MrGreen · Post by **MrGreen** » July 20th, 2007, 23:28

thewombleofdeath wrote:i tried dirt again, only reached a max of 73 degrees (didnt BSOD this time). i'll try some other games tommorrow.

OK, buy some Thermal Paste (Or I'll lend you some) take off the cooler from the graphics card, remove the shitty grease stuff from the card and the cooler with high concentrate isopropyl (rubbing alcohol), make sure it's all off. wipe it all down with something that doesn't leave lint and re-apply a tiny dollop of thermal grease to the card chip. Either spread it even or just put the cooler straight on top of it.

If this doesn't work, get yourself an after market GPU cooler or RMA it.

Post by **FatherJack** » July 20th, 2007, 23:47

thewombleofdeath wrote:oh god....it got up to 81oC just running the 3d image at 377fps

Yeah, that fluffy cube's a heat generator. Adds 10-20°C to my GPU in 30 seconds. There are options to just log temp in there somewhere, without the 3D cube thing which is a sort of stress-test. Not quite sure how to do it, or where it's saved as I just use the nVidia mobo stuff to monitor temp.

As a guide, my GPU starts at around 63°C, but the ATiTool 3D view will quickly take it to 82°C+. Playing BeeF for an hour, it tops out at around 73-75°C.

Processor starts at blood temp and has never been past 50°C, system warms up over time, but generally doesn't exceed the processor temp.

While my CPU remains cool, it's fan is quite large (and transversal), so while it never automatically spins faster than 50%, I sometimes set it to 100% which reduces both system and GPU temp quite quickly in a pinch.

I could draw a picture of airflow in my box, but it wouldn't be much use to you - just a bit of thinking about where the air can go, how it might travel and where the heat is generated might, though. Cool air has to get in somehow, and the straighter and least-blocked it's path to where the (now) hot air goes out, the more efficient your cooling is.

I get scorched plugging in a memory stick, but frostbite inserting a CD.